勇士認為威少的球風很好防，但甜瓜和泡椒的加入帶來更多變數！

勇士認為威少的球風很好防，但甜瓜和泡椒的加入帶來更多變數！

Report: Warriors Think Russell Westbrook"s Style of Play Is "Easy to Defend" (bleacherreport.com)

《露天看台》報道：勇士隊認為拉塞爾-威斯布魯克的打球風格是「容易防守」的

[–]Cavalierslegodmanjames 938 points 12 hours ago

pretty sure every team in the playoffs thought that. 1 man show is a 1 man show.

十分確定每一支季後賽球隊都會同意這個觀點，單打獨鬥就是單打獨鬥，肯定好防啊。

[–]ThunderBeastbrook00 195 points 11 hours ago

Yeah it was easy for the Warriors to defend against him because they could gang up on him with multiple defenders. Let"s see how they like it this season!

雷霆球迷：樓上說得沒錯。對於勇士來說防守威斯布魯克其實挺簡單的，他們可以用多名球員輪番包夾威少。新賽季的話就難說了，看看他們還會不會喜歡這樣的防守策略！

[–][LAL] Didier Ilunga-Mbengahonditar 317 points 10 hours ago

圖片內容：

Sam Esfandiari：「在過去三個賽季勇士對陣威少的17場比賽中（其中有13場是杜蘭特在雷霆時期），威少有3場比賽命中率超過40%」

Sam Esfandiari：「威少這17場比賽里的詳細數據。前13場里雷霆有杜蘭特（2014年12月18日勇士隊陣雷霆，杜蘭特在半場傷退離場）。後4場里勇士有3場有杜蘭特。最後1場杜蘭特輪休。」

（各項數據為：比賽時間、投籃命中數、投籃出手數、投籃命中率、三分命中數、三分出手數、三分命中率、失誤數）

[–]TimberwolvesHumperdink_Fangboner 172 points 10 hours ago

Jesus. I looked at that one 50+% game and thought at least he had a few decent games.

11TOs... Nope

天啊，我看到其中一場威少命中率超過50%的比賽，還以為他在這17次對陣中至少打了幾場好球。

但我錯了，11個失誤。

[–]NBAzxc123zxc123 43 points 8 hours ago*

To be fair, most people don"t play well against the GSW and that 11/3/16 game was basically GSW moping the thunder after the 1st with WB desperately trying to do whatever he could to keep his team up with the warriors. Despite his team clearly not being able to handle the warriors.

說句公道話，大部分球員在遇到勇士的時候都打得不好，而且2016年11月3日勇士對陣雷霆那場，勇士在第一節就把雷霆打花了，之後完全就是威少一個人絕望地嘗試擔當起一切從而能讓自己隊能跟勇士抗衡，儘管很明顯雷霆隊拿勇士隊毫無辦法。

The warriors defense is swamping for even elite guards. It was extra clear in the finals, when even Kyrie must have thought it"s "challenging". Klay is the default guy on most guards. You ask for a switch? OK. Now you have 6"11.5 by 7"0 KD on you. Get another switch. Now you have Iggy. Managed to shake him? Now you have DPOTY Draymond on your ass.

勇士隊的防守能讓很多精英後衛都深陷其中。尤其是在總決賽的時候，連歐文都覺得充滿了挑戰性。克萊一般都是默認去防守對方的大部分後衛，然後你說好吧，那我錯位打總行了吧？很好，現在你有一個2米11到2米13的杜蘭特防著你。再換錯位，現在你有一哥防著你。假設你把他晃過了，現在你有年度最佳防守球員追夢格林追著你的屁股滿世界跑。

[–]Warriorsmanisier 74 points 11 hours ago*

That"s literally the opposite of how we defend Westbrook. The best way to deal with him, ironically, is to just let him take shots and force him into turning the ball over by playing the other 4 guys tightly. He"s already an inefficient scorer so it"s damn near foolproof.

勇士球迷：實際上包夾與我們防守威少的策略完全相反。諷刺點兒說，對付他最好的方法恰恰是讓他投籃，除此之外在他突破時其餘四人收縮防守從而迫使他失誤。他已經是一個低效的得分手因此這樣子防絕對沒有一點兒問題。

Of course that wasn"t possible when KD was catching fire back in the day. With PG and Melo I expect a lot of teams to rethink their defensive playbook against OKC. Still, I don"t expect our scheme to change too much. We"re well equipped to deal with offensive wings since everyone in the death lineup bar Curry can switch a screen

當然了，當KD在雷霆隊手感火熱的時候這種防守策略幾乎是不可能的。現在他們有了喬治和安東尼，我估計很多球隊都會重新計劃他們對陣雷霆隊時的防守戰術。但我不認為勇士的防守策略會有太多改變。我們有足夠的球員深度來對付進攻型側翼，在死亡五小陣容里除了庫里誰都能任意換防。

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantPaladinoras 10 points 8 hours ago

The best way to deal with him, ironically, is to just let him take shots and force him into turning the ball over by playing the other 4 guys tightly.

Reminds me of how teams tried to play Kobe in 08 - 10. Usually Kobe torched them though.

「諷刺點兒說，對付他最好的方法恰恰是讓他投籃，除此之外在他突破時其餘四人收縮防守從而迫使他失誤。」

這句話讓我想起了在08-10兩個賽季其它球隊嘗試這樣防守科比，不過大部分情況下科比都能把對面按在地上摩擦。

[–]WarriorsPinheadXXXXXX 30 points 7 hours ago

Kobe was a far more flexible player

科比是一位更加會視場上情況而做出調整的球員。

[–]WarriorsCantHousewifeaHo 35 points 7 hours ago

WB ain"t Kobe.

威少不是科比。

[–]KnicksRhodes_Closed 989 points 13 hours ago

He shot like 35 percent from the field against them lol

這17次對陣里威少投出了35%的命中率，有點搞笑。

[–]WarriorsIllegalThoughts 916 points 13 hours ago

32 TOs in 4 games

4場比賽里有32次失誤。

[–]jfk22 326 points 13 hours ago

Jesus Christ

額滴神啊。

[–][HOU] Charles BarkleyJimHarden 157 points 13 hours ago

The Warriors have a top defense in the league, they shut down a lot of players

勇士有著全聯盟數一數二的防守，他們經常能防死很多球員。

[–][IND] Ron ArtestBxtchImGoku 427 points 13 hours ago

They never shut down Michael Jordan

可他們從來沒防死過邁克爾-喬丹。

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantChampagnesoda 270 points 13 hours ago

Untrue. MJ hasn』t scored a single point against any of the guys currently on the warriors.

不對喲老哥，MJ還沒在現勇士陣容里的任何一名球員頭上拿過一分呢。

[–][GSW] Stephen Currythelawofreflection 124 points 13 hours ago

But he hasn"t missed a single shot playing against this Warriors team.

但他也從來沒有在對陣這支勇士時投丟過一球啊。

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantChampagnesoda 79 points 13 hours ago

He』s scared

他估計是怕得在角落裡瑟瑟發抖吧。

[–]LakersWalooo 28 points 12 hours ago

This 2017-18 Warriors team also won 0 games in the 17-18 regular season. Who cares about defense when you can"t even win 1 game.

2017-2018賽季的勇士隊還沒有在2017-2018常規賽季里贏過一場球，如果你連一場球都贏不了，誰會去關心你的防守啊。

[–][GSW] Andre IguodalaChooch3333 28 points 12 hours ago

Still tied for the 1 seed though.

勇士球迷：但我們和其他球隊一樣都是一號種子呢。

[–]GrizzliesWaxStatue 19 points 11 hours ago

Also tied for best odds in the lottery.

狀元簽概率也排第一呢。

[–][MIL] Oscar RobertsonSuicidalImmortal 579 points 13 hours ago

Report: Warriors have a DPOY, the 3 and D King, a PG that tries on defense, and a 7footer who moves like silk.

他們應該換個標題：「《露天看台》報道：勇士隊有一名年度最佳防守球員，一名3D之王，一名努力防守的控衛，和一名移動如絲般順滑的七尺大個」。

[–][CHI] Lauri MarkkanenImRBJ 319 points 13 hours ago

7footer who moves like silk.

quite the description for Zaza

「移動如絲般順滑的七尺大個。」

描述的是扎扎吧，沒毛病。

[–]Charlotte Hornetsparty-in-here 120 points 12 hours ago

Obviously he was referencing the GOAT, best two way in any cdth Javale McGee

蠢啊你，很明顯他是在指攻防最強、從一打到五的歷史最佳球員：奧拉朱基！

[–][GSW] Draymond Greennotabear629 266 points 13 hours ago

And then either a FMVP because of his defense or literally a giant ogre

勇士球迷：而且還要加上靠防守獲得FMVP的伊戈達拉，或者身披勇士球衣的食人魔扎扎。

[–]New Jersey NetsLiaM_CS 85 points 11 hours ago

Don"t forget 2-time MVP Javale McGee

還是別忘記了兩屆奧胖五大囧的MVP賈維爾-麥基哦。

[–]NBAwhy_rob_y 118 points 11 hours ago

He"s the 3 and D king the first guy mentioned.

麥基就是層主說的3D之王。

[–][MIL] Giannis AntetokounmpoWIN011 280 points 13 hours ago

I"m just assuming this was taken out of context because that"s what the media loves to do.

我在猜測這個報道是斷章取義的吧，就是媒體熱衷於搞的那一套。

[–]PistonsCrispyBalooga 71 points 13 hours ago

It"s pretty straightforward this time. This was said at some point by people in the Warriors org - players or officials or both, not positive on that.

老哥你錯了，其實這是原話搬過來的。來自勇士團隊的某些人說了這句話，我不太確定是球員還是官方還是兩者都有。

[–]Warriorsacerv 49 points 12 hours ago*

The source is Zach Lowe specifically saying in his podcast that when he talks to Warriors players, that"s the sentiment. Also that Jack Mccallum (a well respected NBA writer) reported the same thing.

I think this is legit and I don"t think it"s all that controversial for the Warriors to think. I don"t really see why our fans want to deny the legitimacy of it. Obviously it"ll be used as fuel for the Thunder, but I don"t think it"s some overly arrogant/outlandish thing our players are saying.

這條新聞源來自於Zach Lowe，他在主持自己播客節目時談到自己與勇士球員聊天時他們特別提到了這件事。同時Jack Mccallum（一位受人尊敬的NBA寫手）也報道了同樣的新聞。

我覺得這話說得很合理，我也不覺得會引起勇士方面的矛盾。我看不透的是為什麼我們作為球迷反而去否認這話的合理性。很明顯這會成為雷霆接下來的動力，但我不認為勇士球員說這話會顯得過於自傲或者古怪。

[–][GSW] Klay ThompsonBear4188 132 points 13 hours ago*

You can see it in the games. Any team that tries to just run everything through one guard to drive and kick gets destroyed by the Warriors. They put Klay on ball who is expert at defending with his body, retreating without fouling, and just making it difficult to get a good shot. Off ball they have KD, Draymond, Iguodala, and Steph all of whom are good at getting in passing lanes or at stripping the ball if the driver isn"t paying attention. Then at the last second when the driver has run out of room and has to go up for a contested layup or force a pass that"s when they bring the double team.

其實平時看比賽就能看出來，任何球隊嘗試通過一名後衛突破分球來解決一切進攻端的問題，往往都會被勇士摧毀。勇士會讓克萊來防有球，他是一名懂得利用身體的防守專家，退守時不會犯規，而且還能讓進攻球員很難獲得好的出手機會。無球的話勇士有KD，追夢，一哥，還有庫里，都十分擅長封堵傳球線路或者在對手突破不注意時把球掏掉。當進攻時間所剩無幾，突破手沒有空間突破只能強行上籃或者勉強傳球時，他們會選擇果斷包夾。

They"re very good at defending this style of play whether it"s from Westbrook or Harden or whoever. Of course both of those teams have big changes that might make for some very different games.

像防這種類型的球員，不管是威少還是哈登還是其他人，勇士都有一套很好的防守策略。當然了，火箭和雷霆都有了很大的變動，新賽季在打法上可能也會與之前非常不同。

[–]Warriorsnotsellingjeans 46 points 12 hours ago

That last point is a really good one. The Warriors have defended ball-dominant high pick-and-roll extremely well. Now both OKC and Houston have added other modes of attack (CP3"s midrange in the PnR, OKC"s ability to iso Carmelo or PG13 with their back to the basket).

老哥我同意你的最後一點，說得很好。勇士在防守以持球攻為主的高位擋拆時防得特別的好。且如今雷霆和火箭都注入了新的進攻方式（火箭有保羅擋拆後的中距離，雷霆能夠拉開讓安東尼和PG背筐單打）。

To your point, the game the Warriors struggled the most defending last year was against Denver - a team that uses relatively few high PnRs. Jokic carved them up. He"s big enough to post Draymond, and it"s very hard to double-team a terrific 7"0" passer with teammates who are willing cutters.

再加一點，去年使勇士防守端陷入最多掙扎的球隊是掘金隊，一支不經常使用高位擋拆的球隊。約基奇的存在撕開了勇士的防線，他巨大的體型能讓他背身打格林，同時在掘金其它球員願意無球切入的情況下去包夾一位優秀的七尺傳球大個也會顯得十分困難。

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