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新的樂透抽籤改革可能會讓季後賽邊緣球隊拿到狀元簽,是利是弊?


新的樂透抽籤改革可能會讓季後賽邊緣球隊拿到狀元簽,是利是弊?




[Brenner] Prediction: Everyone likes lottery reform for a year or two. Then a 41-41 team gets the top pick (like in the 90s) & we go back to old odds. (twitter.com)


Brenner發推:「預測:大家對本次樂透簽改革的喜愛程度也就保持個一兩年。未來如果一支勝率為50%的球隊獲得了狀元簽(就像90年代時候一樣),NBA就會重新用回老版的選秀概率。」







[–][BOS] Paul PierceMracyTcGrady 943 points 10 hours ago


Man this is all a Smokescreen by Silver to hide the fact that the draft is rigged, now it"s easier for him to adjust where the number 1 pick goes. ;)


大夥們這其實都只是蕭華的煙霧彈,只是為了去隱藏選秀被操控的事實,如今對於蕭華來說,去調整狀元簽歸屬於哪支球隊變得更加簡單了。


[–]WarriorsBarcade 617 points 10 hours ago*


are you kyrie? because you are very awake


老哥你是歐文嗎?因為你實在是太清醒了[譯註1]


[譯註1]之前歐文表示自己非常清醒,用了woke這個詞,其為陰謀論愛好者常用詞。在Reddit中,此詞的出現多為嘲諷自作聰明的人。


[–]Lakers Bandwagonvictor396 161 points 10 hours ago


Nah, this is an alt of Mike Korzemba. He"s preparing bait for his new video.


不對,這其實只是Mike Korzemba的一個小號。他在為自己的新視頻準備誘餌[譯註2]。


[譯註2]:Mike Korzemba是Youtube上的知名博主,以製作NBA有關的假設性的視頻而出名。


[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookEb403 128 points 9 hours ago


10 Ways Adam Silver Will BREAK THE NBA


新視頻標題:「10種亞當-蕭華會摧毀NBA的方法」


[–]Lakers Bandwagonvictor396 63 points 8 hours ago


After "50 reasons why David Stern was a GOD"


作為「50個大衛-斯特恩是神的理由」的續集



[–]TheHerdAlert83 406 points 10 hours ago


I"d be down if 9th or 10th seed like Memphis got the 1st pick


如果說像孟菲斯灰熊這種第九或第十種子球隊拿到狀元簽,我會很失望的。

[–][NYK] Jason KiddRasheediscool 451 points 10 hours ago


Memphis deserves it tbh. Such a competitive and hard-working franchise


說實話灰熊值得一個狀元簽。他們可是一支如此充滿競爭性與努力拚搏的球隊啊。


[–]76ersLorax1515 471 points 10 hours ago


Real gym rats, that franchise.

嗯,灰熊就是訓練狂魔,跟聯盟里99.99%的球員說的都一樣。


[–][OKC] Kendrick Perkinsvegan_sharks 323 points 9 hours ago


First team in, last team out kind of franchise.


嗯,灰熊永遠第一個來球館,最後一個離開,跟聯盟里99.99%的球員說的都一樣。


[–]76ersJustRecentlyI 144 points 8 hours ago

Get up at 8:30 kind of franchise.


嗯,灰熊八點半起床。跟聯盟里99.9...好吧是那一個球員說的一樣。



[–]KnicksSemth 49 points 8 hours ago


If this happens and middle of the pack team get picks to take them to the next level the nba will become much more competitive


如果這種預測成真了的話,中游球隊獲得了那些能讓球隊提升一個檔次的選秀簽,那麼NBA將會變得更加充滿競爭性


[–][GSW] Jason RichardsonDanerysFlacco 100 points 10 hours ago


Say Kawhi gets injured and the Spurs decide to tank get the first pick then are good for the next 50 years. Fuck that


勇士球迷:假設科懷-倫納德受傷了,馬刺因此決定擺爛而獲得了狀元簽,那麼接下來的50年他們都會非常的強啊。我靠。


[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliPrimid47 165 points 8 hours ago


That pick"s name? Dim Tuncan.


那個狀元簽選中的球員名字是?鄧姆-蒂肯


[–]TheHerdAlert83 31 points 11 hours ago


I"d also be down with that


我對這個也比較失望。


[–]Lakers Bandwagonvictor396 20 points 10 hours ago


TBF, i"d trust the spurs with a first pick and the ability to develop that talent... there could be a worst case scenario.


直話直說,把狀元簽交給馬刺,我放心...與其擔心狀元簽落到馬刺手裡,不如擔心一些其他的。



[–][WAS] Jan VeselyCatanyoufeelthelove 170 points 10 hours ago


It"ll be a West team that already has a lot of talent. Like Portland or something. Barely miss the playoffs and then grab the "missing piece"


奇才球迷(ID帶有簡-維賽利):會是一支已經天賦滿滿的西部球隊獲得這個狀元簽。比如波特蘭開拓者之類的。差點就掉出了季後賽然後得到了這塊一直缺失的冠軍拼圖。


[–]WizardsGrowmyassoff 55 points 10 hours ago


Jan was such a freak. I wish it worked out


奇才球迷:簡曾經也是一隻怪獸啊,我真的希望他當時能打出來[譯註3]。


[譯註3]:簡-維塞利來自捷克,司職大前鋒,2011年第一輪第六順位被奇才選中。


[–]Celticsdanbryant244 39 points 10 hours ago


Is he the guy that had a quick makeout sesh right after his name was called in the draft


他就是那個在選秀大會上名字被叫到後跟女友快速親熱了的小夥子嗎?




[–]WizardsGrowmyassoff 32 points 10 hours ago


Yup that』s the guy. He was 6ft 11in and an athletic freak and still sucked in the nba.


沒錯就是他。他6尺11寸,有著怪物般的運動天賦,但是還是在NBA里打得很臭。


[–][PHI] Evan TurnerHEATerade 54 points 9 hours ago


Isn"t that a good thing? The draft doesn"t discriminate which conference you are from. The Blazers shouldn"t be screwed out of a contending team built around Lillard just because the East sucks. They have good ownership, a good GM, good players, etc. If they were "rewarded", that only helps the league. The only teams that would be salty are terribly run organizations who tanked on purpose.


這樣子的選秀其實不是一件好事嗎?選秀不會因為你是西區的球隊就對你格外加關照,也不會因為你是東區的球隊就拉低你的簽位。就因為東部太爛,都是墊底的球隊選秀順位高,所以圍繞利拉德建隊的開拓者就失去了拿到白菜價的潛力球員從而邁入爭冠行列的機會。他們有非常好的老闆,經理,球員等等。如果他們能因此而受到選秀權的獎勵,這其實就是在幫助整個聯盟。到時候,要是開拓者這樣的球隊真的拿到了狀元簽,出來酸的肯定會是那些故意擺爛的、經營不善的球隊。


[–][IND] Reggie Millerreggiemillertime 20 points 9 hours ago


Exactly why we see that a lot of the people complaining are fans of poorly run teams or teams that are currently tanking (not all just most)


這就是為什麼我們總是看到大把運營模式極差的球隊球迷、或者正在擺爛的球隊本身抱怨選秀改革。


[–]RocketsBalls_4 18 points 6 hours ago


Rewarding borderline teams makes absolutely no sense, that would pretty much just create two tiers of teams where it gets harder and harder for the lower teams to compete every year as it gets increasingly harder to compete.


獎勵季後賽邊緣球隊其實一點兒也說不通,這實際上會造成兩種極端,下游的球隊會越來越難競爭,而每年的贏球難度也會越來越高。



[–]Celticsdanbryant244 192 points 10 hours ago


Id say thats alnost a good thing. Stops teams from being stuck on the dreaded "treadmill of mediocrity". That means that teams have even less of an incentive to tank and the overall quality of the NBA goes up


我會說這樣的選秀是好事。防止很多球隊甘願碌碌無為,無止無盡。這樣子也意味著球隊的擺爛動機會被削弱,從而提高NBA的總體水平。


[–]76ersZigZagZoo 132 points 10 hours ago


Which is why the lottery should be full random, all teams that miss the playoffs. No incentive to ever tank. Sometimes good players go to okay teams. More pressure on actually building a team and making good gm decisions.


這就是為什麼樂透抽籤就該由那些沒進季後賽的球隊進行完全隨機抽籤。這樣就沒有一點動機去擺爛。有時候好球員也會去一般般的球隊,這樣就更加增加了實際建隊的壓力,也需要經理做更好的決策了。


[–]Celticsdanbryant244 100 points 9 hours ago


Yea the only cons I can think of is that the 7/8 seeds would tank to try and avoid getting spanked+get those lotto balls. This problem will be hard to get around.


Also teams that are terrible will have a harder time improving, but sucks to suck. Think this is not as big of a problem. If a team isnt trying to tank and is consistently at the bottom, nobody to really blame but the FO


這個樂透抽籤制度是好事,我唯一能想到的壞處就是第七或第八種子球隊可能會想著擺爛從而避免被虐,然後又能獲得樂透秀的抽籤。這個問題會比較難解決。


而且糟糕的球隊會有一段更加困難的提升期,但擺爛就是得爛。這也不是什麼大問題。如果一個球隊不嘗試去擺爛還一直處在墊底,那真的只能去怪他們的管理層了。


[–]76ersZigZagZoo 60 points 9 hours ago


I just don"t think you could decide to tank while in position to make the playoffs. The players and coaches are still always trying their hardest. They still want to win. Fans would go crazy if suddenly owners were sitting starters. Plus you make money and get good exposure when you make the plsyoffs. All for just a small chance at a good pick anyway.


我並不認為當你處在競爭季後賽的時候你會選擇去擺爛。球員和教練總是拼了命去打球,他們還是想贏球。如果老闆突然決定這個時候輪休所有主力,球迷也會瘋掉的。而且當你進入了季後賽之後,球隊會盈利也會獲得更多的曝光。為了一個微乎其微的幾率去獲得好的選秀簽位而放棄季後賽?我認為不會的。



[–]recor777 250 points 10 hours ago*


it would be great if 16-17 Heat won the lottery..a team that actually tried to be competitive than just present a glorified g league team on the court.


如果2016-17賽季的邁阿密熱火能贏得狀元簽那該有多好。他們雖然錯過了季後賽,但打的真很拼,為了贏球而努力,而不是像擺爛沒底線的球隊那樣,把自己降低到加強版發展聯盟球隊的檔次。


[–][MIA] Harold Minerparadoxofchoice 20 points 6 hours ago


16-17 heat team did have 9 former d leaguers on their roster at one point though.


在2016-17賽季的某個節點上,熱火確確實實有9位前發展聯盟的球員啊。






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