威金斯前3賽季每百回合正負值歷史倒數第二，他也不受高階數據歡迎？

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威金斯前3賽季每百回合正負值歷史倒數第二，他也不受高階數據歡迎？

Andrew Wiggins is the sixth player since 1973 to average a BPM of -2.0 or worse in his first three seasons (min. 7,000 MP)

安德魯威金斯是1973年後第六個在自己生涯前三個賽季（至少出場7000分鐘）

BPM值（每百回合正負值）≤-2的球員。他的BPM值排在歷史倒數第二。

BPM=Box Plus/Minus，根據數據統計表計算得出的球員每百回合正負值。

[–]TimberwolvesRoyalLake 63 指標 5小時前

He"s also the 6th youngest to score 4,000 points. So he"s still doing pretty well.

但他同時也是歷史上得到4000分第六年輕的球員。他其實已經做得很好了。

（前六依次是：詹姆斯、杜蘭特、安東尼、科比、麥迪、威金斯）

[–]HornetsYizWasHere 9 指標 5小時前

That"s some nice company.

這波扳的漂亮、

[–]Timberwolvesyouvebeengreggd 16 指標 4小時前

Fuck it man. Let em all sleep on Wiggy until he starts counting rings.

狼蜜：不存在的。就讓大家一起忽視威金斯，直到他戴滿戒指（來打大家的臉）吧。

[–]TimberwolvesRoyalLake 4 指標 4小時前

One day。

未來總有一天……

[–]TheKeyNextDoor 5 指標 5小時前

Good stats bad team?

爛隊刷出好數據？

[–]LakersBenLemons 21 指標 5小時前

Most modern nba lottery picks that are good follow the "good stats bad team" narrative. It"s convenient for certain agendas and silly to use.

大部分現代NBA的樂透秀球員都可以用「爛隊刷出好數據」來形容。很適合像你們這樣按流程無腦去貶低他們。

[–]TimberwolvesRoyalLake 14 指標 5小時前

Look at the people he"s with on that list. All have gone on to have HoF careers.

看看錶上其他幾個人吧。都在未來打出了名人堂級別的生涯。

[–]TimberwolvesVukomanovich 26 指標 5小時前

3 of those players also came right out of high school, giving them an extra season to accumulate those points.

其中3個還是高中生球員，比威金斯多一個賽季去刷分。

[–][WAS] John WallKingRikaru 11 指標 3小時前

He"s only 21. He"s only 21. He"s only 21. He"s only 21. Some folks are closing the book on him way too quickly.

威金斯才21歲！才21歲！21歲！歲！這麼快就給他蓋棺定論，太心急了點吧。

[–]LakersBenLemons 10 指標 5小時前

What other players are on pace to reach this... asking for a friend.

湖蜜：幫朋友問問……其他球員有慢慢靠近威金斯-2.4這個數據的嘛……

[–]BulletsWallStar206 11 指標 5小時前

Brandon Ingram is at -4.2 right now.

樂意效勞，英格拉姆目前的數據是-4.2。

[–]LakersBenLemons 5 指標 4小時前

Knew I could count on you to have the info

湖蜜：就知道你能給我這樣的信息……

[–]CavaliersKancer86 9 指標 5小時前

It feels sometimes like Wiggins lacks an identity...and that in turn makes him unable to focus on his individual strengths and carve out a niche for himself. Then again, thats just from the few games ive seen him play. I feel like hes "alright" at everything but great at really nothing. Wolves fans, is that a fair assessment?

我有時總會覺得威金斯缺一些個人的特點……所以這就讓他無法專註於提升自己最優勢的地方，從而開發出自己的獨門秘籍。我只看了他幾場比賽，我覺得他十八般武藝什麼都會，但沒有一項是頂尖的。森林狼球迷們，我說的這些還算不吹不黑嗎？

[–]Timberwolvesyouvebeengreggd 11 指標 4小時前

He gets to the cup better than most his age. He has come along with his jumper. He has a loooooooot of potential still to tap, and that"s not because he"s unwilling to do the work. He just literally has tons of room to grow.

He is the smoothest basketball player I"ve ever seen. He makes it looks so easy that people mistake it for laziness.

He is growing as a defender and will be a good-great defender when he has more time in this system.

He has had trouble with free throws lately which is weird. He is sometimes mr. clutch in late game moments but can"t always be counted on.

He gets UP for big matchups, especially if he"s going up against one of the greats. He comes to play for those games. Always.

Sometimes he holds a little back, but sometimes there"s a reason for that.

The kid is MASSIVELY underrated but I"ve stopped caring about that.

Time will tell the truth.

他比同齡很多球員都更好。他的跳投一直是自己的特色。他離自己的上限還差的很遠，但這並不是因為他不努力或者說沒有這個野心。他只是單純的還需要很多方面的提升。

他是我見過最行雲流水的球員。他把自己在場上的一切都做的讓人感覺過於輕鬆了，以至於有人誤解他球風懶散。

他的防守在進步，當他在錫伯杜的體系中再多待些時候，未來會成為一個出色的防守球員。

最近他的罰球出了些問題，這有點奇怪。他在比賽關鍵時刻展現出過一些殺手的本色，但並不是一個可以穩定依賴的點。

他大場面表現很棒，尤其是對位那些偉大球員的時候。

威金斯被大大的低估了，但我已經不在乎這些了。

時間會證明一切。

[–]TimberwolvescanadainscatsMn 30 指標 5 小時前*

4 coaches in 4 years. Not worry about this at all he"s starting to develop and with thibs it will improve big time

四個賽季換了四個教練……不擔心他現在的各種高階數據，隨著錫伯杜的調教，威金斯已經開始轉變，未來會有很大的提升……

[–][PHI] Joel Embiidrahbee33 20 指標 5小時前

Derozan avg -2.6 in his first three seasons. He just missed the list because he only played 6,721 minutes in his first three years.

德羅贊前三個賽季的每百回合正負值是-2.6。只不過前三個賽季他只打了6721分鐘，所以逃過了這份榜單。

[–]Vancouver Grizzliescspec 3 指標 3小時前

If Wiggins evolves to what Derozan is now, you guys are set!

如果威金斯能達到德羅贊現在的水平，森林狼就穩了。

[–]CavaliersNaijfreak 5 指標 3小時前

Am gonna get shit on but I believe Wiggins will be better, there"s just something about him.

我冒著被噴的風險說一句，威金斯有能力成為比現在的德羅贊更好的球員，他身上有自己的特質。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rosethe_steve1127 7 指標 5小時前

Haven"t followed the Wolves much, how are Minny fans feeling about Wiggins these days?

這賽季沒怎麼看森林狼的球，明尼蘇達的球迷對威金斯的表現有什麼看法？

[–]TimberwolvesVukomanovich 12 指標 5小時前

Has not lived up to the hype, but not half of the bust that this sub makes him out to be.

He was described as a player who would need time to develop, and he has been asked to learn 3 systems in 3 years, with 3 different coaches. Not exactly a great recipe for success. He shows flashes of brilliance, but can disappear from time to time as well.

All in all, the kid is 21 years old, and is the 6th youngest player to reach 4,000 points (Lebron, Durant, Melo, Kobe, and TMac are head of him). If he can learn to play within Thibs" defensive system, and score a little more efficiently the conversation will be completely different.

狼蜜：威金斯還沒有達到對他的預期，但更沒有大家噴他的一半那麼辣雞……

他一直都被認為是一個需要時間開發成長的球員，然後在前三年內他換了三個教練，要學習三套體系。這不是成功的好劇本。他展現過自己無與倫比的才華，但也會時不時的在比賽中迷失。

不管怎麼說，他才21歲啊，而且已經是聯盟達到生涯4000分第六年輕的球員（就在勒布朗、杜蘭特、安東尼、科比和麥迪之後。）如果他能學會在錫伯杜的防守體系下打球，如果他能以更高的效率得分，那麼關於他的討論絕對會是另一種畫風的。

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