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天選之子!他選秀連續錯過庫倫德樂考昏招連連,GM界最坑爹屬他


David Kahn is the worst GM in NBA history.

大衛-卡恩是NBA歷史最辣雞的球隊經理。

天選之子!他選秀連續錯過庫倫德樂考



I don t know much about the bastard but after looking through the NBA Drafts he participated in and the choices he made, I ve got to say I m sorry for Minnesota, but hey at least you have a spooky team.

2009 Draft


Before we take a look at Kahns stupidity, lets take a look at their roster at the time.


Heading into the draft Minnesota had 4 first round picks, and 2 second rounders, thats more than enough to find some decent NBA players in such a good draft class. Except this is David Kahn we re talking about. With his two lottery picks he drafted Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn, two point guards back to back, ahead of Stephen Curry, DeMar Derozan, Jrue Holiday, and many more. He then went on to draft Ty Lawson and Wayne Ellington with the other two 1st round picks, and Nick Calathes in the 2nd


Kahn drafted 4 point guards in one draft class, why? I wouldn t blame him for Flynn becoming a bust or Rubio not living up to his potential, but when you could have had Curry and Derozan on the same team as Kevin Love and Al Jefferson, its mind blowing.


Players Kahn didnt draft- DeMar DeRozan, Jordan Hill, Jrue Holiday, Stephen Curry, DeMarre Carroll, Jeff Teague, Darren Collison, Taj Gibson

2010 Draft


Coming off a terrible 15-67 the Timberwolves had the 4th pick in the 2010 draft which produced players like DeMarcus Cousins, Derrick Favors, John Wall, and Gordon Hayward to name a few.


Heading into the draft Minnesota could use an improvement at just about every position, so anybody would have been a good choice, but they chose Wesley Johnson, a 22 year old over younger players like DeMarcus Cousins, Gordon Hayward, and Paul George. With their next two picks they drafted Trevor Booker and Luke Babbitt. Out of those three players Trevor Booker is the best.


Players Kahn didnt draft- Everyone not named Wesley Johnson


2011 Draft

This would be the last time David Khan would make a lottery selection, drafting Derrick fucking Williams with the 2nd pick over Jonas Valanciunas, Kemba Walker, Klay Thompson, Alec Burks, Brandon Knight, Kawhi, Reggie Jackson, Jimmy Butler, and a whole shit ton of other good ass players in this deep ass draft class.


Had David Khan drafted the right players Minnesota could have been NBA champions/contenders right now. Their starting lineup could have been something like this if they had drafted the best players at each position,


PG- Stephen Curry


SG- DeMar Derozan

SF- Kawhi Leonard


PF- Kevin Love


C- DeMarcus Cousins


I don t know of any other GMs who could be worse than Kahn but if there are go ahead and tell me, I d love to have a discussion about this.


我對這個焚蛋不是很了解,但看看他參與的幾屆選秀大會做出的選擇吧,我必須站出來心疼一波明尼蘇達。不過現在至少你們有一支很有潛力的球隊了。


2009年選秀大會


在近距離欣賞卡恩的愚蠢之前,先看一波當時森林狼的陣容。


森林狼手握4個首輪簽,2個二輪簽,在那樣一屆新秀池出色的選秀大會中,這麼多簽太足夠他去選一些足夠出色的NBA球員了。然而做出選秀選擇的是大衛卡恩啊。兩個樂透簽,先後摘下盧比奧和瓊尼-弗林,連續摘下兩個控衛,在這兩人之後還有庫里、德羅贊、霍樂迪和其他很多很多球員。然後吶?他接著用剩下的兩個首輪簽選擇了泰勞森和韋恩埃靈頓,又用次輪簽摘下了尼克卡拉西斯。


一屆選秀大會摘下4個控衛,歪?弗林成為水貨,盧比奧沒有最大程度兌現天賦,這些都不怪他,但他本有機會選下庫里和德羅贊,和當時隊內的樂福和艾爾傑弗森組成一隊,這就有點難以接受了。


卡恩錯過的球員:德羅贊、喬丹希爾、霍樂迪、庫里、德馬爾卡羅爾、傑夫蒂格、達倫科里森、泰吉布森。


2010年選秀大會


在經歷了一個15勝67負的糟糕賽季後,森林狼得到了2010年選秀大會的4號簽,這屆選秀大會中有著像考辛斯、費沃斯、沃爾、戈登海沃德等等的球員。


森林狼每一個位置都需要提升,所以這屆選秀大會對球隊來說任何人都可能是一個很好的選擇。但卡恩選擇了韋斯利-約翰遜,一個22歲的大齡新秀,因此放棄了考辛斯、海沃德、保羅喬治等人。剩下的兩個簽位,卡恩選擇了特雷沃-布克和盧克-巴比特。這三個球員中,發展最好的是布克。


卡恩錯過的球員:除了韋斯利-約翰遜外的所有球員。


2011年選秀大會


這是卡恩最後一次主掌選秀大會了,然後他用榜眼簽選下了德里克-草泥馬-威廉姆斯,錯過了瓦蘭丘納斯、肯巴沃克、克萊湯普森、伯克斯、奈特、倫納德、雷吉傑克遜、小吉巴,還有很多很多很多出色的新秀。


但凡卡恩做出幾個正確的決定的話,森林狼早就能組成一支爭奪冠軍的球隊了。如果卡恩每次都做出了最好的選擇,原本森林狼的首發陣容可以是:


庫里、德羅贊、倫納德、樂福、考辛斯。


[–]Kingsccupgirl 210 指標 1 天前


I think you could make a "look who they could ve drafted" list for a lot of teams that would look similarly impressive.


我覺得吧,你要是從「看看他選秀大會錯過了誰」這方面著眼的話,可以給每支球隊都作出一個差不多的東西來。


[–]76ersdnzgn 72 指標 1 天前


In 2011-2014 drafts a team with good draft reputation could have drafted these guys but didn t: PG: Isaiah Thomas SG: Allen Crabbe SF: Jimmy Butler PF: Draymond Green (they could ve drafted him if they didn t trade their pick away) C: Nikola Jokic


Even Spurs look bad if phrased that way.


2011-2014這四屆選秀大會中,一支有選秀眼光出色名聲在外的球隊本可以選出這樣一套陣容,但他們沒那麼做,控衛:伊塞亞托馬斯;分衛:阿倫克拉布;小前鋒:小吉巴;大前鋒:追夢格林(要是他們沒有選秀權送走的話,我覺得會選他的);中鋒:約基奇。


你要是這麼看的話,強如馬刺都看起來很糟糕。


[–][TOR] Terrence Rossredsnake1377 9 指標 1 天前


Nobody was gonna pick IT with a first rounder or something, we had no idea what he could ve become. Kahn s fuckups are blatantly obvious, which is the issue.


沒人會用首輪簽選擇伊賽亞托馬斯的,誰都不知道他會發展成什麼樣。而Kahn簡直就是個人形移動辣雞,這才是問題的關鍵。


(圖上文字:選秀?再選個控衛不就行了!)

天選之子!他選秀連續錯過庫倫德樂考



[–][GSW] Stephen Curryreddit858 19 指標 1 天前


No, the Flynn pick was just stupid. I understand it s hard to evaluate talent and GMs might have passed over Steph for whatever reason, but you don t use back-to-back high draft picks to pick two pure point guards. The principle is just awful. It was one of the most head-scratching draft moves I ve ever seen.


並不,選擇弗林這件事已經夠蠢的了。我理解,評估球員的天賦很難,球隊經理可能由於各種理由錯過庫里,但沒有人會用連續的兩個高順位簽去摘兩個純控衛。這選擇簡直絕了。這是我見過最腦子挨驢踢的選秀之一了。


[–][UTA] Kyrylo FesenkoBLymanWarrior 8 指標 1 天前


Jazz could easily be a mega-lineup of Giannis-Zach LaVine-Kawhi-Paul George-Gobert right now, but it s extremely not plausible. Just too many variables in these type of things.


爵士本來可以組成一套字母哥、拉文、倫納德、喬治。哥爾貝的陣容,但這種假設根本不合理。這種事情,有太多不可控的變數了。


[–][CLE] Anderson VarejaoCesarosPubicHairs[S] 10 指標 1 天前


the Cavs are one


騎士也可以算上了。


The Cavs have had multiple GMs since 2003, but they ve been one of the worst run franchises in that time. Lucked into obvious picks in LeBron and Kyrie. Fucked up many others. Failed to build a competent team around the best player in the world. Made an obvious trade for Love that was essentially orchestrated by LeBron.


What s the best move they ve made? Trading for JR and Shump?


That s arguably worse than Khan. But sometimes it s better to be lucky.


從2003年到現在,騎士已經換過多個經歷了,但在這段時間裡,騎士可以說一直都是在選秀屆最差的存在之一了。除了詹姆斯和歐文兩個毫無懸念的狀元人選,其他的選擇基本都是操蛋的。完全沒有在最強球員身邊組一套強勁的陣容。唯一做了個大膽的交易換來樂福,還是詹姆斯鼓勵的。


目前為止球隊做過最好的交易是啥?換來了JR史密斯和香波特?


這可以說比卡恩更糟糕。但有時候,運氣好比做正確的決定更有用。


[–][TOR] Jose Calderondeadskin 432 指標 1 天前


Billy_King


你們都忘了比利金了嘛?

天選之子!他選秀連續錯過庫倫德樂考



[–]BullsJinsUnited 109 指標 1 天前


He was playing GM in 2K Franchise mode, trading picks for stars. Except all of those players were out of their primes.


Summary: Seven 1st round picks (3 of which were in the top 10) for a broken Deron Williams, Gerald the standard for horrible contracts Wallace, and the ghosts of Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Jason Terry. Incredible.


比利金當經理時,是當做2K模式在玩的,用選秀權交易來球星。唯一的區別就是,換來的都是巔峰已過的球員。


總結下:7個首輪簽(3個前十順位)換來了支離破碎的德隆威廉姆斯、傑拉德「垃圾合同標杆」華萊士,還有喬約翰遜、保羅皮爾斯、加內特和傑森特里的鬼魂。哇哦,了不起。


[–]Philyeagles710 13 指標 1 天前


Wasn t that when they went to BK though? Was probably just trying to get a bunch of well known guys to put people in the stands.


這不是去了布魯克林時的事情嗎?可能只是為了用一些名聲在外的球員吸引球迷來現場看球吧。


[–][NJN] Keith Van HornYoGabbaTheGreat 10 指標 1 天前


ding ding ding Prokhorov wanted butts in the seats from day 1. New city, new buzz, new revenue. He wanted a championship within 5 years of the move, and well, we know how that worked out now, but most Nets fans, and NBA coverage we re not hating on the the PP/KG trade when it went down.


是了,普羅霍羅夫希望球場內坐滿人。網隊搬到了新的城市,新的名字新的開始。他希望能在年內奪冠,當然現在我們看到結果如何了。但當時大部分的籃網球迷,和NBA雜誌的封面可沒有對皮爾斯+KG的交易有什麼不滿的。

天選之子!他選秀連續錯過庫倫德樂考



[–][POR] Damian Lillardirelli 101 指標 1 天前


See, that s because he was playing 2k all wrong.


You re supposed to trade away literally every and get late 1sts for guys like Chris kaman somehow, then have 14 first round picks. Get all the rookies, then trade them away before RFA so you can control the 1st round for forever.


Gotta hinkie it


看到了吧,那是因為他玩2K的方法不對。


你應該把所有人都交易走,換來未來的狀元簽,然後摘下克里斯卡曼這樣的人,並且得到14個首輪簽。選下所有的新秀,培養他們,在他們成為自由球員之前再次交易出去,這樣循環,就能掌控每一年的狀元簽了。


這叫辛基化。


[–]Cavaliersthirstythecop 19 指標 1 天前


Lol that s incredible.


哇哦,真是了不起。


[–]TimberwolvesHoopsJ 72 指標 1 天前


Kahn was awful, but criticizing him for the Lawson pick is dumb because he was drafted for the Nuggets. Kahn didn t pick Lawson and then decide to trade him, Denver made that decision for him


卡恩很辣雞,但批評他選勞森是很蠢的事情,因為勞森是為掘金選得。卡恩沒有選擇勞森,是丹佛掘金做出的這個決定。


[–]Raptorsdcarson10 17 指標 1 天前


It also wasn t know when Rubio would come over to the NBA. So yes, three PGs were drafted, but only one was on the team that season.


當時也不知道盧比奧什麼時候會登陸NBA的。確實,當時選了3個控衛,但那個賽季只有1個控衛在隊里。


[–]Knicksazizinator25 30 指標 1 天前


Him, Billy King, Scott Layden, and Ted Stepien are definitely all in the conversation.


卡恩,比利金,斯科特-雷登(前紐約總經理)還有Ted Stepien,絕對都是最辣雞經理的候選人。


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