狼隊又選到高位水貨！美球迷痛斥鄧恩實在太水了，還是個大齡戰五渣

運動 02-17

美國JRS之聲

Kris Dunn is flat out terrible. (self.nba)

克里斯-鄧恩是真的水。

Just add him to the list. Yet another top Wolves draft pick miss and the how many front office execs who picked this guy to win ROY should be absolutely embarrassed.

Personally, I never thought very highly of the guy but just like any player your team drafts, you root for the guy and want to be proven wrong.

Well god dammit Kris Dunn you"ve been proving me fucking right all season long.

He"s averaging 3.7 points, 2.5 assists, and 2.2 rebounds on nearly 17 minutes per game. His shooting splits are fucking atrocious too .369/.271/.580

Remember how many people on this sub thought he would replace Rubio 20 games into the season? I can"t tell you how many Wolves fans I saw who wanted to trade Rubio and start Dunn right away.

He"s so bad it"s unbelievable yet nobody is talking about it. We had a chance to draft Murray or Hield and actually give us some scoring off the bench (which we"ve be absolutely desperate of) but instead we drafted a guy pegged as the most NBA ready prospect in the draft but he looks like he just picked up a basketball for the first time in his life. It"s honestly incredible.

The worst part of it all is that Tyus Jones is unquestionably better than him but we all know Thibs has a huge ego and isn"t going to play the younger and better Jones over his top 5 draft pick.

The only thing Dunn has going for him is his defense but if he doesn"t turn it around on the offensive end this guy is going to be out of the league in no time.

把他加到水貨的名單里吧，森林狼又浪費了自己的一個高順位簽，那些曾經認為這傢伙能拿最佳新秀的高管現在肯定都臉都腫了。

我個人從來就不怎麼欣賞這個傢伙，但是正像任何一名主隊選擇的新秀一樣，你都會支持他，並希望事實能證實自己是錯的。

但是真特么的見鬼，克里斯-鄧恩，本賽季到目前為止你的表現一直都證實著我的想法是對的。

在場均接近17分鐘的上場時間裡，鄧恩場均拿下3.7分，2.5個助攻和2.2個籃板。他的命中率更是不忍直視，兩分三分和罰球分別為36.9%/27.1%/58%

還記得shh里有多少人曾經說這傢伙會在不到20場比賽里就取代盧比奧成為首發嗎？我都記不清之前見過多少的森林狼球迷說，想要交易掉盧比奧，讓鄧恩一來就打首發。

他的表現太差了，所以我感到非常驚奇居然沒有人噴他。我們本有機會拿下默里或是希爾德，這樣最起碼也能給予我們一點板凳火力（顯然是我們迫切需要的），但是相反我們選的這個被認為是最強即戰力的球員在場上表現得好像生命中第一次接觸到籃球一樣。老實講這真的不可思議。

然而最糟的地方還在於，現在狼隊中泰厄斯-瓊斯毫無疑問是比鄧恩更優秀的球員，但是我們都知道錫伯杜極度自負，所以他是肯定不會讓更年輕更優秀的瓊斯取代他自己拿前5順位選的控衛去上場的。

現在唯一對鄧恩有利的事情是他的防守，但是如果他在進攻端還不能儘快取得改善的話，這傢伙絕對很快就沒球打了。

[–]Celticsbzrascal 102 指標 9小時前

You should mention his age. This dude is older than your big three

樓主你應該提到他的年齡的，他比你狼的三巨頭都要大。

[–]CavaliersGKMC35 959 指標 9小時前

He"s older than wiggins and KAT too lol

哈哈哈，他年齡居然比維金斯和唐斯還要大。

[–]Timberwolvesjustchillyo 197 指標 8小時前

We closed out a game a few weeks ago with a lineup of Dunn Tyus LaVine Wiggins and KAT. The oldest guy on the court was Dunn, a rookie.

幾周前我狼用這樣的陣容贏下了一場比賽，鄧恩，瓊斯，拉文，維金斯和唐斯，這裡面年紀最大的就是這個新秀，鄧恩。

[–]Timberwolvescjsplash[S] 475 指標 9小時前

That"s why the pick is so frustrating to me

Fine, he"s 18 and was pegged a raw prospect? I"ll give him time..

But dude turns 23 next month and was supposed to be one of the best players in the draft lol I mean this guy could have went in the second round

這就是用第五順位選中他讓我如此沮喪的原因。

如果他只有18歲，被認為是一支潛力股，我也能接受，我會給他時間的...

然而這傢伙下個月就23歲了，而且本應該成為這一屆中最優秀的球員之一，哈哈，以他的水平甚至會掉到第二輪。

[–]bleaak47 122 指標 7小時前

Beal is 23? Wow.

It feels like the guy has been in the league forever and I essentially had already written his career off after being injured almost every year for a huge stretch of games.

Now the dude looks like one of the best SG"s in the league and he"s 23.

比爾也才23歲？哇噢。

感覺這傢伙好像一直都在聯盟里打球啊，而且在他每年都因傷缺席大量的比賽後，我基本上就已經認定他的生涯結束了。

然而現在他看起來像聯盟里最好的SG之一，而且才23歲。

[–]LakersWiggle_x_3 519 指標 8小時前

So is Anthony Davis

安東尼-戴維斯也才23歲。

[–]BullsMeerooo 244 指標 8小時前

That 2012 draft class was stacked as fuck.

2012年這一屆新秀真的強到爆炸。

[–]76ersbarbarix96 309 指標 9小時前

369/.271/.580

holy shit thats awful

命中率才0.369/0.271/0.580。

真特么見鬼，這也太垃圾了了吧。

[–]Raptorsslamdunk23 173 指標 9小時前

Damn 58% from the ft line thats rondo esque

見鬼，58%的罰球命中率，這不是隆多嗎？

[–]Sunsneedhername 78 指標 7小時前

Rajon Rondo Mavs numbers

隆多在小牛大概就是這個命中率吧。

[–]MavericksDreadSteed 33 指標 6小時前

Worse, Rondo Bulls numbers hahaha

比這還要差，應該是隆多在公牛的數據，哈哈哈。

[–]Timberwolvesdaddock 12 指標 7小時前

Yeah people always give Ricky shit for his terrible scoring, but Dunn is shooting worse and has significantly worse distribution skills. .

是的，人們總嘲諷盧比奧說他進攻不好，然而鄧恩的進攻更加垃圾，而且組織明顯沒有盧比奧強。

[–][CLE] Zydrunas Ilgauskasddottay 204 指標 9小時前

I was a Kris Dunn fan during the draft, but...you"re right. It"d be one thing if he was a 19 year old not getting minutes, but he turns 23 soon and is getting good back up minutes. It"s one of the reasons why I think the Wolves are crazy for playing the "should we trade Rubio" game every year, because there really is never a viable person to take that starting PG role for them.

在選秀的時候我還是名鄧恩的粉絲，但是...樓主你是對的，如果他只有19歲，得不到什麼上場時間，我也能接受。但是這傢伙馬上就23了，然而作為替補得到了充足的上場時間。這也是我認為每年大家都喊著「交易盧比奧」是件非常瘋狂的事情的一個原因，因為實際上森林狼從來就沒找到一個可靠的控衛人選。

[–]Timberwolvestotaldrk62 91 指標 8小時前

I got lit the fuck up in Wolves sub for even suggesting the Wolves keep Rubio until Dunn pans out. I kept hearing how he"s the exact same player as Ricky, and so much cheaper.

He is not even close to Rubio.

我對於森林狼板塊那邊說在鄧恩成功前先暫時保留盧比奧這種說法簡直不能忍，我一直能聽到這樣的說法：鄧恩就是盧比奧的翻版，而且要便宜許多。

說實話他和盧比奧差的還真不是一點兩點。

[–]PelicansWhoDatBrow 23 指標 8小時前

I was also a Dunn fan. I did really like Hield and Murray too though and would"ve been fine with any of them. #Blessed to have ended up with Hield over Dunn. Murray vs Hield is a lot closer but Murray is younger so, jury"s out on that one.

我之前也是鄧恩的粉絲，但是當時我也非常喜歡穆雷和希爾德，而且選中他們中的任何一人我都能接受。當時我祈禱著能選中希爾德，儘管希爾德和穆雷之間的差距很小，但是穆雷畢竟太年輕了，這點還是讓他處於劣勢中的。

[–]CavaliersImanShumpertplus 21 指標 7小時前

While Dunn is older, he"s still adjusting to the speed of the game. It"s so much faster than college. he"s still dealing with the rookie struggles.

儘管鄧恩年齡比較大，但是他仍然處在對比賽節奏的適應中。NBA的節奏比大學要快太多了，他仍然在處理新秀會遇到的一些困難。

[–]BullsBell1287 471 指標 9小時前*

Imagine if we would"ve traded Butler for Lavine and Dunn like so many people thought we should"ve

公牛蜜：就想想如果我們像大多數人想的那樣拿巴特勒去換了拉文和鄧恩，將會產生什麼後果吧。

[–]Celticssahsan10 170 指標 9小時前

This was also the time when the Noel and Okafor were being shopped for top 5 picks.

當時76人也想要打包諾埃爾和奧卡福去換一個前五的簽。

[–]BullsPlanetofapes 135 指標 9小時前

Also the 2016 draft was trash

而且2016年這一屆本來就很垃圾。

[–]itskellyo 86 指標 9小時前

I"m trying to figure out why GM"s are still enamored with non-shooting PG"s. It"s been a while since one of them has had much success in the league.

我只是努力想要弄明白為什麼直到現在總經理們還是對這種沒有籃子的控衛如此著迷，離上一個類似這樣的球員取得比較大的成功已經過了很久了。

[–]HornetsShmuelwitz 134 指標 9小時前

He has been awful, and it"s his age compared to other rookies that makes it even more worrying. Has he shown any flashes at all, other than on defence?

他的表現一直很差，再加上相比於其他新秀他過大的年齡讓一切看起來更加糟了。除了在防守端，他有過任何閃光點嗎？

[–]Timberwolvescjsplash[S] 239 指標 9小時前

He"s had maybe 1 or 2 good games scoring the basketball all season.

The worst part about it was I went to a game a few weeks back and got to go watch shoot around...

HE FUCKING SAT THERE ON THE BENCH FOR AN HOUR JOKING AROUND

A dude who can"t fucking shoot the ball isn"t trying to put up as many shots as possible? It boggled my fucking mind

也許一整個賽季他就只能在1到2場比賽里投進球吧。

最糟糕的事情是，前幾周我去球館了看了一場比賽，賽前看到了球員們在熱身投籃...

然而這傢伙卻特么的坐在板凳上和隊友講了一個小時的笑話。

一個本來就特么投不進球的人卻一點都不努力的去多訓練一些投籃？這真的讓我發瘋了。

[–]HornetsShmuelwitz 106 指標 9小時前

That"s not a great sign. If he isn"t a hard worker i"m even less sure what those NBA executives saw him

這可不是個好徵兆。如果他連努力訓練的品質都沒有的話，那我就不確定那些NBA的高管們究竟看上了他的哪一點才給他這樣高的順位了。

[–][BOS] Kevin GarnettIfuckinglovebball 100 指標 9小時前

It was easy to see what they saw in him. He was an excellent college player. Just doesn"t always translate.

要說他們看上了他的哪一點其實很簡單，他是個出色的大學籃球運動員，只不過並不是每個出色的大學籃球運動員都能成功的完成從大學到NBA的轉變。

[–][MIN] Wally SzczerbiakNeedDEA 63 指標 9小時前

I wanted Murray, I was not happy when we drafted Dunn. And Murray hasn"t been great either, but he"s 3 years younger and wasn"t supposed to be as "NBA ready" as Dunn

我想要默里，當時選了鄧恩我就非常不高興。儘管默里打得也不咋地，但是他比鄧恩要年輕3歲，而且當時也沒有像鄧恩這樣被認為是「極強的即戰力」。

[–]Timberwolvesdis_what_I_say 24 指標 8小時前

Sigh.... I wanted Murray too

Oh well. We got Towns and Wiggy. And Ricky is actually starting to look like a somewhat capable scorer, which is all he needs to do to be really good. I love Ricky so I"m not too upset about Dunn if this means he continues to be our pg. Still would have been nice to get a contributing piece tho instead of Dunn

同意...我也想選默里。

但是我們已經有了唐斯和維金斯，而且盧比奧現在慢慢也好像能夠得一些分了，這也是他離偉大唯一的距離。我很喜歡盧比奧，所以我對鄧恩也不是非常失望，只要盧比奧還是我們的控衛。但是仍然希望我們能選一個對球隊有點貢獻的球員，而不是鄧恩。

[–][BOS] James Youngwalterdog12 307 指標 9小時前*

Lol remember all the people saying he"d be ROY and how the Celtics were morons for not drafting him?

People are gonna say to give him time cause he"s just a rookie, but he"s gonna be 23 in a month. It"s really starting to look like a bad pick.

凱爾特人蜜：哈哈哈哈還記得所有人都說他會成為最佳新秀，並嘲諷我們綠凱是個白痴沒有選他嗎？

人們還是會說給他點時間把，讓他適應，畢竟他只是個新秀。然而還有不到一個月他就23了，現在看來用五號簽選他真的是個錯誤的選擇。

[–]Raptorsslamdunk23 110 指標 9小時前

I remember one analyst saying that he would immediately be the best pg on the Celtics roster if they drafted Dunn... Lmao that guy should be fired.

我還記得當時有個分析家說，如果綠凱選了鄧恩，他便立馬回成為球隊陣中最好的控衛...見鬼，這種人就應該被解僱。

[–]CelticsTheNotoriousJTS 21 指標 9小時前

Is his jumpshot bad? No court awareness? What"s the deal exactly?

是他的投籃很差嗎？還是球場意識不行？他究竟是哪裡不行？

[–]Kingsjennys0 44 指標 9小時前

He"s extremely raw despite being 22. In college, his handles didn"t look tight. He would get really sloppy at times, and was prone to TOs. His 3pt% in college was decent, but it was clear that he wasn"t a comfortable shooter.

So in the end, you have a raw physical PG. Only bad thing? He"s already kinda old..

他的技術非常糙，儘管已經22了，就算在大學裡他的控球能力也算不上頂尖。在NBA中他經常會手腳不靈，從而容易失誤。雖然大學裡他的三分球命中率還說的過去，但是顯然他不是個穩定的投手。

所以總體上說，你還是選了一個很糙的控衛。唯一不好的地方？他的年齡已經有點大了...

[–]HornetsYizWasHere 72 指標 9小時前

Looked like a meh draft going in and so far it has been. The best player (so far) was the 36th pick.

目前看來這是屆很水的選秀，現在最好的球員是36號秀。（布羅格登）

[–]RaptorsDeKobe-DeBryant 60 指標 9小時前

Man, and here I thought that Dunn was gonna be in contention for ROTY.

Bust, and he"s not even one of those players that show flashes like Ingram.

朋友，之前我還覺得鄧恩會成為「年度最佳新秀」的強力候選者。

見鬼，他連像英格拉姆這樣能偶爾靈光一現的球員都不如。

[–][CHI] Derrick RoseMughki 14 指標 9小時前