美球迷熱議誰是現役最強白人球員|帕帥慘遭調侃

運動 03-04

美國JRS之聲

Is Hayward the best White NBA Player? (self.nba)

海沃德是不是聯盟里最厲害的白人球員？

I"d say it would have to be between Hayward and Marc Gasol with Kevin Love rounding out the top 3

No, Blake Griffin does not count.

我覺得海沃德，加索爾和凱文樂福應該會包攬前三

不！格里芬不算在內！

[–]Trail Blazersarchaicsun 1120 指標 7小時前

Remember when chandler parsons said he was the best white player? Lol

還記得錢德勒帕森斯說自己是最強的白人球員么？哈哈哈哈

[–]UnityPukeInMyMouth 346 指標 7小時前

As a Mavs fan I check his stats from time to time and just laugh hysterically. Dude is so full of himself.

最為一個小牛球迷，我還會時不時的看看他的數據，每次看完都要笑死了。這老哥可真自以為是啊。

[–]Westurfaselol 35 指標 4小時前

and then you realize how much the dude is getting paid while being injured and can"t feel but impressed at his hustle.

然後你會意識到這個老哥受傷不打球的時候都嗖嗖嗖的賺錢，開始對他的勤奮佩服得五體投地。

[–]Mavericksdeknegt1990 42 指標 5小時前

And to think Memphis maxed him... Might be the worst contract in the NBA right now.

(Sorry Memphis fans, I love you... But I"m happy Dallas dodged that bullet)

之後再想到灰熊給了他頂薪……可能是NBA現在最爛的合同了

（不好意思啊灰熊的球迷們，我超愛你們的……但是我就是很開心蝸牛躲過了這一劫）

[–]SupersonicsMrCrushus 41 指標 4小時前

Yes it looks terrible obviously but at least he is only 28.

I think Noah is the worst contract. like $18 mil per year for 4 years to a guy who is already 32, clearly in decline and is missing the rest of the season with an injury already. And its only going to get worse from here he"s just going to get older, less athletic and more injury prone.

Evan Turner has to be up there too. Like at least if Parsons is healthy what he brings is valuable. Turner is getting paid like $17 million per year to just be the third best ball handler on their team, take shots away from Dame and CJ and disrupt their spacing.

是啊這合同看起來很明顯爛透了，但至少他只有28歲。

我覺得諾啊的合同才是最爛的合同，每年1800萬然後可以領四年，而且他已經32歲，已經出現明顯下滑，也因為傷病錯過了很多比賽。考慮到他的年齡，之後只會越來越差，越來越沒有運動能力，而且越來越容易受傷。

埃文特納也應該在最爛合同排名上，至少帕森斯健康的話，他的貢獻還是有價值的，特納一年拿著1700萬美元，然後打著球隊第三好持球人的位置，從利拉德和麥科勒姆手裡搶出手還會打亂他們的節奏。

[–]Grizzliesscoooty54 14 指標 3小時前

Like at least if Parsons is healthy what he brings is valuable.

Paying max money to a guy who can"t stay on the court and averaging 6 points per game on 34% shooting

「至少帕森斯健康的話，他的貢獻還是有價值的」

你在說的這個人，是拿著頂薪，但是連場都不怎麼能上，就是上了場也只有34%的命中率場均6分。

[–]BucksWIN011 334 指標 7小時前

Such disrespect. Dude is dating a 19 year old so bow down.

你這對他一點敬意都沒有。他可是泡到了19歲的女孩子，我們不該向他鞠躬么。

[–]Pelicanscastleinskyyy 209 指標 7小時前*

Didn"t Hayward get engaged a few years ago to a girl who just literally graduated (at that time)

海沃德幾年前不是跟一個剛畢業的女孩子（當時）定的婚么？

[–]Clippersau_tom_atic 160 指標 5小時前

How many is a few? 3? Then Hayward would have been 23, and his fiance around 21. Normal. Being 28 and dating a 19 year old is questionable.

你說的幾年前是多少？那海沃德當時是23歲，然後他的未婚妻大概21歲。蠻正常的呀。28歲的老牛然後吃著19歲的嫩草才是有問題的。

[–]76ersbasketballwonk 26 指標 6小時前

It"s okay though cause Parsons is a virgin

你們慌什麼，帕森斯還是處男呢。

[–]Bullsb1oconnor 658 指標 7小時前

He"s the best white American player

他是最強的白美國球員。

[–]Warriors2muchsawz 85 指標 7小時前

Who"s a better euro white player?

那誰是更好的白歐洲球員

[–]Knickscarrycook 702 指標 7小時前

Marc

馬克加索爾

[–]CelticsThe-Big-Aristotle 101 指標 7小時前

Uhhhh are you forgetting the Swedish Larry Bird?

你們都忘記了瑞典伯德么？

[–][TOR] Andrea Bargnaniadomanski 122 指標 7小時前

Marc is the best, but if I were starting a team i"d rather have Hayward than Love.

小加最棒了，但是如果我要組建一支球隊的話，我更願意要海沃德而不是樂福。

[–][PHI] Allen Iversonbowlofsoop 402 指標 7小時前

TJ McConnell

TJ麥康奈爾

[–]Supersonicsiwtbwy 200 指標 6小時前

OP was asking about the best white NBA player, not GOAT.

樓主只是在討論現在最強的白人美國球員，不是在排歷史最佳。

[–]CelticsTheNotoriousJTS 234 指標 6小時前

Scrolled through all the comments and no mention of Dirk. Shoutout to Dirk.

滾完整個帖子沒看見有人提到諾維斯基，這裡向我的老司機奉上最高敬意。

[–]JazzRGiss 186 指標 7小時前

Honestly I don"t see that strong of a Gasol>Hayward argument statistically.

? Hayward has carried his team to a better record

? Hayward averaged more points on a higher efficiency (22.5 on 60.4 TS% vs 20.5 on 56.2 TS%)

? Gasol averages only .6 more rebounds, .9 more assists.

? Hayward has a higher PER (23.1 vs 21.3)

? Hayward has a higher WS and WS/48 (8.4-6.8, .222-.166)

? they have an equal BPM

?Gasol barely beats Hayward in VORP with 3.4 to 3.1

說實在話，我真沒覺得數據角度上來看，小加索爾會比海沃德強。

海沃德帶隊戰機更好

海沃德場均得分更高的同時，效率也更高（場均22.5分，真實命中率有60.4%對上20.5分，50.6%的真實命中率）

加索爾場均只多0.6個籃板，0.9個助攻

海沃德有更高的PER值

海沃德有更高的勝利貢獻值和更高的每48分鐘勝利貢獻值（8.4-6.8，0.222-0.166）

他倆的個人勝負值差不多。

加索爾在球員替代值上稍微強過海沃德3.4對上3.1

[–]Timberwolvescireks 134 指標 6小時前

yeah most of the time you have to look at how big spain actuallly plays rather than his numbers then you understand why he"s so good. he almost gets every decision right offensive and defensivewise

大多數時間你需要看西班牙巨獸在場上的表現而不是盯著他的數據，那樣你才能理解他有多強。他幾乎能在攻防兩端都做出最好的決定。

[–]ClippersMetta_wool_fleece 22 指標 6小時前

Having watched him crush us live with three pointers (Including a step-back), I have a really hard time saying anyone else is better than him. Marc Gasol is a magician

船蜜：親眼目睹他用三分生吞活剝了我們（包括一記後撤步），我現在對有人比他強這件事持嚴重懷疑的態度。小加索爾跟個魔術師一樣。

[–]Buckssfh23 144 指標 8小時前

Right now yes. All time no - its obviously Scalabrine.

現在的話還是海沃德吧。史上最佳肯定不是他，明顯是白曼巴斯卡拉布賴恩。

[–]PlayedYourEyes 37 指標 6小時前

Oh please. Scalabrine would still dominate today if he didn"t retire due to boredom.

拜託，如果他沒有因為無聊而退役的話，他到現在還依舊可以統治聯盟。

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