神仙打架！喬詹科季後賽戰績對比：詹皇勝率平喬丹，勝場平科比！

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All-Time Playoff Record: Jordan, LeBron & Kobe

喬丹，勒布朗和科比整個生涯中的季後賽戰績

（註：數據統計截止至4月23日）

喬丹：119-60 勝率：66.5%

勒布朗：134-68 勝率：66.3%

（註：今日騎士橫掃淘汰步行者後，勒布朗135勝-68負，也達到66.5%勝率追平喬丹）

科比：135-85 勝率：61.4%

[–]WarriorsCrimson510 771 指標 20小時前

Kobe probably had the hardest conference to deal with right?

科比當時所在的分區也許是這三個人中最艱難的，對嗎？

[–]NetsBigbadbuck 441 指標 19小時前

He also had the best teammate

但是科比也有著最強的隊友。

[–]jh12321 70 指標 17小時前

The first half of Jordan"s career the east was pretty damn strong.

在喬丹生涯的前半段里，東部尼瑪強得可怕。

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantButtagood4you 48 指標 16小時前

People seem to forget the pistons

人們好像忘了活塞的存在。

[–]Celticsdackots 65 指標 16小時前

People sleeping on the Bad Boys. People sleeping on Larry Bird. People sleeping on Patrick Ewing and Mark Price. Shit"s disrespectful.

人們忘了喬丹那時的壞小子軍團，忘了拉里-伯德，忘了尤因和馬克-普萊斯。這太不尊敬人了。

[–]Pistonshurlcarl 372 指標 18小時前

Why is this downvoted? if you believe any of the guys Jordan and Lebron have played with are as good as prime Shaq you"re insane.

為什麼這也能被滅？如果你認為喬丹和勒布朗的任何一位隊友有巔峰沙克那麼厲害的話，你就是個瘋子。

[–]Thundervolcatus 275 指標 18小時前

Seriously. Prime Pippen is a top 35 all-time player. Prime Shaq is a Top 10 all-time player.

講道理，巔峰皮蓬最多也只能排進歷史前35，而巔峰沙克則是歷史前10的球員。

[–]Rocketsbinger5 305 指標 18小時前

Prime Mario Chamers top 2 all-time player.

巔峰馬里奧-查爾莫斯：歷史前2球員。

[–]zxc123zxc123 86 指標 17小時前

Kobe did have prime Shaq who is probably the greatest and most dominant of all the teammates that MJ/Kobe/LBJ had.

But I also factor in Kobe"s road to finals being tougher road since he played in West. Popovich+Duncan Spurs, DAntoni+Nash, Dirk Mavs, later in his career OKC, etc.

Does it even out having Shaq? No, but Kobe"s career wasn"t always with Shaq.

科比擁有著巔峰的沙克，巔峰沙克也許是喬丹/科比/勒布朗的所有隊友中最偉大，最具有統治力的球員。

但是我也覺得科比通往總決賽的道路要更難，因為他在西部。先後越過了波波維奇+鄧肯的馬刺，德安東尼+納什的太陽，德克的小牛，生涯晚期還遇到了雷霆三少，等等。

但是這能抵消擁有沙克給科比帶來的加成嗎？顯然不能，但是科比並不是整個生涯中都和沙克在一起。

[–]WarriorsThe_Great_Saiyaman21 14 指標 16小時前

In some of the earlier years they"d have to beat the prime Bad Boy Pistons just to get a shot at playing the Bird Celtics, which then in turn would give them a chance to play Kareem and Magic in the Finals. It was nuts even if it never fully played out like that.

But still towards the middle like in "90-"91 the Bulls had to beat Patrick Ewing to play Charles Barkley so that they could play the Pistons and face the Magic Lakers in the Finals.

在公牛早期的時候，他們需要先擊敗巔峰的壞小子軍團才能得到和伯德的凱爾特人一戰的機會，而只有擊敗了凱爾特人他們才能有機會在總決賽中去對陣擁有賈巴爾和魔術師的湖人。這非常瘋狂，儘管沒有真正的完整實現過一次。

不過仍然在90-91賽季的時候，公牛打敗了擁有尤因的尼克斯，接著又把巴克利的76人斬於馬下，最終他們擊敗了壞小子軍團領銜的活塞，並在總決賽中遇到了由魔術師帶領的湖人。

[–]Vancouver GrizzliesDerHofnarr 14 指標 15小時前

Four teams that pretty much out match any Eastern Conference competition that LeBron has faced since 2010.

上面這四支球隊基本上能碾壓任何勒布朗在2010年後面對的東部季後賽球隊。

[–]Butlersgawd 97 指標 19小時前

Lebron plays in the east tho

勒布朗畢竟在東部。

[–]Sunseuph31 36 指標 14小時前

LeBron eliminated a 70 win team tho.

畢竟擊敗過一支70勝的球隊。

[–]NBAbig_ol_boners 13 指標 13小時前

down 3-1 tho

畢竟還是在1-3落後的情況下。

[–]Raptorssunnyice 3 指標 5小時前

Even better.

這讓勒布朗顯得更強。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryantiamnotkobe 23 指標 16小時前

Staying in ECF certainly boosted Lebron"s winning percentage

處在東部絕對提高了勒布朗的勝率。

[–]76ersBCSinReverse 6 指標 14小時前

Damn us never gettting a Kobe-Lebron finals.

見鬼，我們從來都沒看到過科比-勒布朗之間的對決。

[–]Lakerstsu1028 59 指標 20小時前

3 goats

3位歷史上最偉大的球員。

[–]CavaliersConnor4Wilson 10 指標 19小時前

I wonder who the next guy to join them will be. KD is already 28, I honestly think it"s too late for him to be in this race but at the same time he"s probably the 2nd best guy in the league.

我在想誰會是下一個加入他們的人。KD已經28了，老實講我覺得在這個追逐中他的年齡已經有些大了，但是同時現在聯盟里第二出色的球員也許就是KD了。

[–][GSW] Baron DavisCommandersLog 23 指標 16小時前

Jordan and Lebron didn"t win their first championship until 28.

喬丹和勒布朗都沒有在28歲之前拿到他們的第一座總冠軍。

[–]CavaliersConnor4Wilson 8 指標 16小時前

Hey, this is very true. That was also a year after LeBron got Wade and Bosh, and around when Jordan got Pippen and Horace Grant to step up their game. I guess we"ll just have to wait and see how it goes.

是的，這確實是真的。而就算在勒布朗與韋德，波什聯手；喬丹得到皮蓬和格蘭特後，他們也都花了一年才開始真正建立自己的王朝。我覺得我們只能等著看看未來會發生什麼了。

[–]halvorboss 525 指標 17小時前

Magic Johnson 128-62 67.4%

I don"t know that Magic Johnson is the greatest player in NBA history, but it"s really strange that a guy who made it to 9 NBA Finals by the age of 31 is not even talked about in the same breath as these guys.

魔術師的季後賽整體戰績為128-62，67.4%的勝率。

我不知道魔術師是不是NBA歷史上最偉大的球員，只是感覺非常奇怪，這樣一位31歲之前9次打進NBA總決賽的人居然都沒能進入和上面幾位一起討論的範圍內。

[–]Cavaliersvoyaging 322 指標 16小時前

He"s nearly unanimously considered better than Kobe outside of Laker/Kobe fans.

除了一些湖人/科比球迷外，魔術師幾乎是公認的比科比強。

[–]SupersonicsAlfalfa_Centauri 146 指標 15小時前

I mean, they were very different players. Both offensively elite, with Magic being a pass-first facilitator who could also dance around anyone and score at will, with Kobe being a shoot-first, scoring machine who could also set up his teammates very well. Different styles, but two of the greatest to ever play the game.

我的意思是，魔術師和科比是風格差距非常大的球員，兩者在進攻端都非常優秀，魔術師是個傳球為先的組織者，但是也能隨心所欲得在對手面前砍分；科比則是投籃優先，他是個得分機器但是他也能給隊友創造舒服的得分機會。不同的風格，但是這兩位都是歷史上最偉大的球員之一。

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantPaladinoras 106 指標 15小時前

And Kobe was a lot better at defense. Near the end of his career Magic couldn"t defend a traffic cone

科比在防守端要比魔術師強的多，在魔術師生涯末期他連個路樁都防不了。

[–][SAS] Tim Duncancanond08 124 指標 19小時前

Meanwhile Duncan is over here with 157 playoff wins and a .625 win percentage

同時鄧肯以157場季後賽0.625的勝率在這裡默不作聲。

[–]SpursBoom9001 39 指標 19小時前

Yeah he should be on here.

是的，鄧肯應該出現在這裡。

[–][SAS] Kawhi LeonardBrianDawkins 2 指標 11小時前

Duncan with 157 and 5 rings

鄧肯在他157場季後賽中拿了5枚戒指。

[–]lagspike 12 指標 13小時前

jordan and kobe both had to play much harder competition in the first/second rounds.

lebron is good, but they had a harder road to the finals. also, lebron has the same amount of games or more, and 3 less rings. mind you, jordan retired to PLAY BASEBALL, came back, and threepeat again.

喬丹和科比都需要在第一/二輪的時候面對更強的對手。

勒布朗非常強，但是上面兩位通向總決賽的道路確實更難。勒布朗和喬丹的季後賽場次幾乎一樣，他可能還更多一些，但是卻少了三枚戒指。同時提醒你一下，喬丹曾經退役打過棒球的，回歸後又完成了一個3連冠。

[–]Lakerschad12341296 65 指標 18小時前

I love this lol Kobe was so good in the playoffs for a player with a playing style that usually sucks in the postseason and a guy who went up against legit defensive juggernauts

我非常喜歡樓主這張圖，作為一名擁有通常會在季後賽里不管用的打法的球員，及其總是面對著防守強敵，科比在季後賽里的表現真是太逆天了。

[–]LakersilikeCRUNCHYturtles 29 指標 14小時前

Also, Kobe was arguably a better lockdown defender than either of them.

另外，科比肯定比另外兩個的防守都要強。

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantPaladinoras 24 指標 15小時前

Jordan dominated in the 90s, when a league expansion effectively diluted the talent across the league. He didn"t do shit in the 80s when all those East teams were still good. Hell he didn"t even finish above .500 until Pippen matured.

喬丹直到90年代才開始統治聯盟，當時聯盟的擴張顯著的稀釋了各支球隊的天賦，在80年代當東部的球隊仍然非常強時，他並沒能搞出動靜。見鬼，直到皮蓬成熟前，喬丹的勝率都沒有超過50%。

[–][LAL] D"Angelo Russelluntraiined 30 指標 16小時前

Bro there was a five year stretch where if you didnt win 50+ games you wouldnt make the playoffs in the west.

朋友，在西部曾經連續5年如果你沒有獲得50+的勝場，你就進不了季後賽。

[–]Vancouver GrizzliesDerHofnarr 29 指標 16小時前*

Kobe had Duncan Spurs, Jailblazers, Ming Rockets, Nash Suns, Webber Kings, Deron/Boozer Jazz, Melo Nuggets, KG Wolves, and Dirk"s Mavs. 9

Jordan had Bird"s Celtics, Bad Boy Pistons, Wilkins Hawks, , Barkley Sixers, late 80"s Cavs, Ewing"s Knicks, Miller Pacers, Montcrief Bucks, and the 90"s Heat. 9

LeBron had Billups/Wallace Pistons, George/Hibbert Pacers, Wade"s Heat, Howard"s Magic, Joe Cool Hawks, KG/Pierce Celtics, and Rose"s Bulls. 7

I think the Jordan Bulls and Kobe Lakers had it pretty similar when you look at the HoF level player teams they"ve gone against in Conference. I had to stretch a bit for LeBron, and they"re a couple of weaker opponents for everyone.

科比的對手：鄧肯的馬刺，刑房開拓者，姚明的火箭，納什的太陽，韋伯的國王，德隆/布澤爾的爵士，安東尼的掘金，加內特的森林狼和德克的小牛，一共9個。

喬丹的對手：伯德的凱爾特人，壞小子軍團活塞，威爾金斯的老鷹，巴克利的76人，80年代末期的騎士，尤因的尼克斯，米勒的步行者，蒙克利夫的雄鹿以及90年代的熱火，一共9個。

勒布朗的對手：比盧普斯/華萊士的活塞，喬治/希伯特的步行者，韋德的熱火，霍華德的魔術，炫酷的老鷹，加內特/皮爾斯的凱爾特人以及羅斯的公牛，一共7個。

我認為如果你從名人堂級別的球員數量來說，科比的湖人以及喬丹的公牛在他們各自的分區面對的對手是差不多強的。我對勒布朗稍微有一點點微詞，因為他的對手相比前兩位來說在每個位置上都弱了一點點。

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