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從五大囧到2院救贖,勇士拯救麥基生涯讓人驚嘆!夏天能拿4年6400萬?

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從五大囧到2院救贖,勇士拯救麥基生涯讓人驚嘆!夏天能拿4年6400萬?



As a basketball fan, can we just appreciate how Golden State revived JaVale McGee"s career? (self.nba)


作為一個籃球迷,我們就不能好好感激一下勇士拯救了麥基職業生涯這件事么?









當他給奇才打球的時候,我記得他有成為一台兩雙機器的潛力。哎呀,他23歲的時候就場均10+8還有2.4個蓋帽。但他同樣也有一些很愚蠢的表現,五大囧可以說是徹底的毀掉了他的名聲。記得有一次他非常可悲的想要拿到一次三雙,那行為看起來真的很卑微。


他那些愚蠢的表現(就是搞砸的表現),以及非常低下的籃球智商毀了他的潛力,也導致了他最後職業生涯的滑坡。場均作為首發球員時可以得到25分鐘的上場時間。雖然因為傷病上場時間有所減少,但還是沒有被正確的使用。最終他錯過了很多比賽,而他打的那些比賽,也只能得到10-15分鐘的上場時間。


所以簡單點說,就是他搞砸了!


但再之後,勇士決定簽下他。他們會讓他在小段的時間裡上場。賽季初期的時候,他還是與有些愚蠢的表現,但是勇士的高超水平和常有的領先優勢掩蓋了這些。


現在季後賽到了,他現在的表現完全可以用大殺特殺來形容。完美融入了勇士的進攻。像是一個窮人版小喬丹,在場上和很多個窮人版保羅一起打球——他的角色看起來就是接空接,以及完成快速的終結。防守端,為球隊提供核心區域的防守以及籃筐保護,這些也是勇士所欠缺的。他反正就是努力打球,然後獲得了回報。


很多球員在被正確使用或者去了一支優秀的球隊之後可以變得多棒簡直令人震驚。


When he played for Washington, I remember thinking that he had potential to be a double-double machine. Hell, at 23 he averaged 10/8, and 2.4 blocks a game. He made a lot of boneheaded plays, though, and Shaqtin" a Fool really ruined his reputation. I remember his pathetic attempt at trying to get a triple double, which was so cringe-worthy to watch.




His boneheaded plays (lowlights), and his unfortunately low BBIQ basically ruined his potential, which in turn, began his downhill spiral of a career. As a starter that was getting close to 25 mpg, his minutes dropped due to injury and was just not being utilized properly. Eventually, he would miss a lot of games, and when he played, he would only get 10-15 minutes.

Basically, he fucked up!


But then, the Warriors decide to pick him up. They begin to utilize him in short bursts. At the beginning of the season, he"s still making boneheaded plays, but the Warriors" skill and large leads covers this.


Now, come playoffs, and he"s absolutely feasting. He"s a perfect fit in the Warriors offense. He"s like a lesser DeAndre Jordan, playing with multiple lesser Chris Pauls whenever he"s on the floor - his role is seemingly to catch lobs, and get quick baskets. On the defensive end, he"s there to provide the core defense and rim protection that the Warriors lacked. He"s just hustling and getting rewarded for it.


It"s just insane how much better players play when utilized properly and are on a good team.






[–]CelticsDingusMcGringus 670 指標 7小時前


His revived career is going to die pretty quickly when some lottery team gives him $60M over 4 years


隨便一支樂透球隊給他一份4年6000萬的合同之後,他這剛剛復甦的職業生涯估計就又完蛋了。




[–]finfyng 276 指標 7小時前

Do you mean the kings or the Knicks?


你是說國王或者尼克斯?




[–]NuggetsRealPutin 138 指標 7小時前


Do I hear bidding war?


自由球員市場是要有一場激戰么?




[–]zxc123zxc123 29 指標 4小時前


Don"t let playoffs Wade/Rondo fool you. Bulls FO will make an offer too!


不要被季後賽版韋德和隆多蒙蔽了雙眼,公牛高管們也會送上報價的哦。


[–]Warriors BandwagonCoreFour1996 114 指標 7小時前

Mozgov got 4/64 and he averaged 6/4. McGee should get at least a max contract for carrying the Warriors in this postseason.


莫茲戈夫場均6+4拿到了6400萬四年的合同。麥基今年季後賽拖著勇士前進的表現不管咋說都值個頂薪吧。




[–]Warriorschanggerz 80 指標 7小時前


tbh we might need to give up dray or klay to keep javale


勇士球迷:說實話我們為了留下麥基可能要放棄格林或者是湯普森。


[–]JazzTroyMclure90 25 指標 5小時前


No one will be stupid enough to do that right? Like teams HAVE to know that he is just a product of the four all-world players on the court with him. Send him to any other team and he"d be straight ass


沒有人會蠢到真這麼做吧??球隊們肯定都知道他完全得益於跟四個世界級球員一起上場打球。隨便給他換個隊,估計沒幾天就又萎了。




[–]JazzCherry_Peel 37 指標 5小時前


Yeah, okay, Shaq.


好了知道了,樓上是奧尼爾無疑。








[–]NBAlozzobear 101 指標 7小時前


The effort he gives is amazing. He become such an energy guy for them.


他付出的努力可以說是非常令人吃驚了。為了球隊他真的變成了一個活力小子。




[–]Spurs BandwagonDJ_Mbengas_Taco 46 指標 5小時前


Winning will do that for ya


贏球就是會有這麼神奇的功效。


[–]Warriorsfhoosh 20 指標 3小時前


Being a positive force and having meaningful impact for your team also does that.


能夠成為一股正能量,對球隊產生自己的影響也會有這樣的功效。




[–]Cavaliersyuhanz 28 指標 5小時前


He"s always been a spark plug. The thing is he isn"t really relied upon to do outside of what he can in GS unlike before where his potential is being explored and he"s playing a lot of minutes.


GS also creates so much floor space because of their shooting and passing ability so he only needs to be rolling at the right time and he can finish strong.


他一直都是拔火栓似的人物。關鍵是他在勇士的時候,沒有人要求他做他理所不能及的事,這點跟別人在開發他的潛力給他很多上場時間的時候不一樣。


勇士利用自己投籃和傳球的能力創造了很多場上的空間,,所以他只需要在正確的時機上不斷輪轉換位就可以打出強勢的表現。




[–]Warriorswtfdaemon 17 指標 3小時前


He"s a prime example of how really good coaching (on-court and off-court) can make a mentally-scattered player like Javale into an amazing role player.


He"s always just needed a well-defined role on offense and defense, and teammates who build his confidence, trust and understanding of the schemes.


No one should sleep on how well the staff and coaches worked to make him fit so well and understand his role/responsibilities so well. He also, obviously, worked his ass off to deserve/receive their trust at this point in the season.


Equally, I"m sure it"s huge for him to have such cerebral and chill players make sure that he gets everything he needs to be successful.


It"s an underrated part of the Warriors - they win (and Durant came over) because of how smart/perceptive/competitive they all are, and how much fun that makes the game.


McGee ain"t dumb - he just needed to be around people who could understand (and thus teach) him. That said, almost losing his once-promising career probably dealt him a healthy dose of humiliation and made him hungrier and more appreciative of a great situation.


他就是,一個(場上場下都是)好教練能夠把一個心態崩了的球員變成非常不錯的角色球員的絕佳例子。


他一直需要的就是一個攻防兩端比較明確的角色,以及願意幫助他建立信心,構建信任,以及理解戰術的隊友。


沒有人應該忽視工作人員和教練為了讓他融入這支球隊以及讓他理解自己的責任和角色時所做出的努力。他也很明顯,為了配的上他們的信任,在這個時候做出了極大的努力。


同樣的,有這麼一些理智而且心態平和的球員在他身邊,來確保他能夠得到他想要打出成功的表現時所需要的東西,這件事對他來說也很重要。


這是勇士被低估的一個方面-他們能夠贏球(還有杜蘭特的加盟)是因為他們很聰明、很有理解力也很有競爭力,以及有了這些特徵之後,他們的比賽會變得多麼有趣。


麥基並不愚蠢-他只是需要身邊有一些能夠理解他的人(而且還可以指導他)。說了這麼多,在他幾乎失去了自己一度似錦的前途之後,他可能也經歷了一些程度還算適當的羞辱,讓他更加渴望,也會更感恩自己能夠處在一個非常不錯的環境之中。


[–]Warriorswafino1 174 指標 7小時前


I"m sure appreciating it, Javale works hard and balls hard.


我本人是很欣賞的,麥基訓練刻苦打球也很刻苦。




[–]WarriorsSuperboted 36 指標 6小時前


He doesnt care about money too much but instead care about the people who played with him. Never seem him happier in any team like warriors.


他不在乎錢的多少,但他很在意自己跟誰一起打球。從來沒見過他比現在在勇士還要開心。





[–][ORL] Tracy McGradyTkinzel517 108 指標 7小時前


In 2012 he was a meme for mental retardation. How far we have come.


2012年的時候,他還出現在被嘲諷為智障的表情包里。看看我們又走了多遠啊







[–]packersSBLIIchamps 10 指標 2小時前


I think it stopped when he himself admitted he has ADHD and even as a kid he never took his meds


在他承認自己有小兒多動症,而且小時候從來沒吃過葯之後,我記得大家就不再嘲諷他了。


[–]theresistance69 65 指標 7小時前


The DeAndre comparison is quite apt... main difference is I think he can"t stay on the floor for too long because of his asthma. And I suspect when he gets gassed or asked to do too much is when boneheaded plays happen.


Warriors really is a perfect fit.


I won"t be surprised if he starts showing up in bursts as part of the death line-up.


Matter of fact whenever he has played with the starters recently, the +/- has been death line-up like.


He was +24 today, next Warrior was +13.


Happy for him and hope Warriors can keep him next year.


小喬丹這個比較還挺貼切的……主要的區別是,他有哮喘不能在場上呆太久。我記得他每次吸了氣(註:哮喘的臨時治療方式,這個氣應該是個藥物)或者是被要求做太多事情的時候,就是那些愚蠢的表現出現的時候了。


勇士真的很適合他。


如果他出現在勇士的死亡陣容中並且打出爆發的表現我不會太震驚的。


關鍵問題是最近他跟首發球員一起上場的時候,正負值基本就是死亡陣容的水平。


今天他的正負值是+24,次於他的下一個勇士球員是+13


真的為他感到開心,希望勇士下賽季可以把他繼續留在陣中。








[–]wrxwrx 43 指標 6小時前


People need to use the eyeball test more often. Marc Gasol is right. It"s taken THIS long for other team fans to see how much he"s turning games around simply by looking at stats. I mean it"s not like the stats are saying something opposite of his game, but watching him play, you"d think the numbers would be even higher.


McGee"s eyeball test was rough for maybe a month in to start the season, and when Zaza went out, the guy became one of the best role player on the team. Was not hard to see he provided a threat on offense, a shot changer on defense.


People said he might have match up problems, has no defense. Zaza is clearly better, etc. When you have Dray opposite of any center, you can never be in a bad match up. If you can get up and get it, you"ll have chances to get it. Warriors don"t lose in the paint.


McGee is has more impact than KD. Don"t get this twisted by thinking I said McGee is better than KD. All I"m saying is that McGee changes this team"s game so much when he comes in that he can single handedly change the game"s outcome by himself. KD does things McGee never can, but the Warriors when they get it going, they don"t need what KD brings. They can totally use what McGee brings any time, on or off.


人們都應該多看看比賽了,小加索爾說的很對,花了這麼長時間別的球隊球迷才通過看數據發現他改變了比賽的走勢。也不是說數據跟比賽是對立的,但是看他打球的話,你會覺得他的數據應該要高很多。


麥基賽季剛開始一個月的時候的表現看起來就很掙扎,當帕楚利亞受傷的時候,他就成了球隊最強的角色球員之一。不難看出他為球隊的進攻端增加了威脅,在防守端也可以干擾別人投籃。


人們都說他有一些對位的問題,沒有單兵防守。帕楚利亞這方面顯然更好等等。但當你有格林可以對上任何中鋒的時候,麥基不管怎樣都不會陷入一個不好的對位。如果你能跳起來去搶板,不管怎樣都有機會拿到籃板的。勇士這樣在禁區就不會吃虧了。


麥基比杜蘭特更有影響。不要把我的話曲解成麥基比杜蘭特強。我說的就是麥基可以改變這隻球隊的比賽方式,當他上場的時候,可以一己之力改變比賽的結果。杜蘭特做得到的事情麥基從來就做不到,但是勇士一旦打得順起來,他們就不那麼需要杜蘭特的產出了。但他們完全可以用得上麥基能夠做到的那些事,不管是場上還是場下。




[–]Warriorschanggerz 40 指標 6小時前


Dubs didn"t have anyone like McGee last year, but KD is just like a massively upgraded Harrison Barnes


去年勇士沒有一個像麥基這樣的人,但是杜蘭特就是哈里森巴恩斯的超級升級版。


[–]27saints 21 指標 7小時前


I just want javale to stay and win sixth man next year


希望麥基可以留下來,然後明年拿下最佳第六人。




[–]WarriorsSuperboted 12 指標 6小時前


By the looks of it with KD willing to take less money warriors can seriously sign all 3 javale andre and shaun next season


看上去如果杜蘭特少拿點錢的話,勇士真的可以留下麥基,伊戈達拉和利文斯頓三個人。


[–]Warriors BandwagonPain_Packer 84 指標 7小時前


I love the Javale McGee story and I can"t help but root for the guy. Been made fun of his entire career and here he is being a key role player and energy man for the league"s best team.


我很喜歡麥基的故事,忍不住要支持他。他整個職業生涯都被嘲笑,而現在他成了聯盟最強球隊的關鍵角色球員以及最具能量的人。




[–]Wizardskubideh_kaczynski 85 指標 7小時前


javale"s a lot easier to enjoy from a distance lol


奇才球迷:麥基可遠觀而不可褻玩焉。




[–][GSW] JaVale McGeemolon 25 指標 6小時前


true. After watching some interviews with him, I rather not hear him speak again. Perhaps he"s so defensive and dickish because he has been made fun of for so long.


這話太對了,在我看了他的一些採訪之後,我還是更希望他再也不要說話了。可能是因為他被嘲笑了太久,開始變得很自衛很混蛋。


[–]Warriorsswegn 19 指標 6小時前


Even his biggest cheerleader, Ethan Strauss, said Javale"s not pleasant to deal with for the media, so it"s hard to know how he truly feels.


For the GSW community, he"s been doing really wonderful things, like his turkey give away, reading events with kids, taking poor families out to shop for clothes, etc. It could very likely be the biased media"s impression that we"re seeing.


At the same time, like Tim Bontemps likes to talk about, when he has all this veteran experience and stable, mature environment around him, nudging him in the right direction, that means a helluva lot.


IIRC, Javale"s ADHD is pretty bad, and Adderall or other meds affect him too much, so he doesn"t take anything for it


就算是全世界最大的麥基吹,Ethan Strauss,都說麥基對於媒體來說,對付起來很難受,想要知道他的真實想法太難了。


對於勇士的社區來說,他做了很多非常高尚的事情,就比如發放火雞,給孩子讀書的活動,為貧困家庭買衣服等等。我們看到的很可能是媒體對於麥基有所曲解的報道。


同時,就像Tim Bontemps喜歡說的那樣,在他身邊能夠有經驗老將,以及身處一個穩定成熟的環境中,促使他朝著正確方向前進,對他來說意義重大


如果我沒記錯,麥基的小兒多動症還挺嚴重的。一些藥物對他產生的影響會太嚴重了,所以他沒有吃任何來治療小兒多動症的葯。


[–][CLE] Bob Suracalebkeith 34 指標 8小時前


The warriors could make Kyle Singler look good.


勇士能讓凱爾辛格勒都看起來不錯。




[–]WarriorsTdrafty 122 指標 7小時前


Anderson Varejao kinda disproofs that...


瓦萊喬的表現不是推翻了這個觀點么









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