只差28！美球迷熱議詹皇將破喬丹季後賽得分紀錄，榮幸見證歷史

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只差28！美球迷熱議詹皇將破喬丹季後賽得分紀錄，榮幸見證歷史

LeBron James is now 28 points away from passing Michael Jordan for #1 on the playoff all-time scoring list (self.nba)

勒布朗現在距離超過喬丹成為史上季後賽得分最高的球員只差28分了。

With his current average of 32.2 pts/game in these playoffs, it looks like the record could go down on Thursday.

鑒於他今年季後賽到現在場均32.2分，看起來周四的比賽中這一紀錄就會被打破了。

[–]Heatninjaman68 553 指標 11小時前

dudes breaking records every other game by this point it seems like lmao

哈哈哈，看起來這傢伙在這個時間點上每過幾場比賽就會打破一些記錄。

[–]CelticsJohnFKennnedy 87 指標 11小時前

Tends to happen when you"re a superhuman that never gets hurt and just entered the top 10 of playoff games played.

如果你是個超人，從不受傷，並且打的季後賽場次剛剛進入歷史前10的話，這樣的事情就會發生。

[–]Spursgaxkang 10 指標 11小時前

He"s going to be breaking his own records by the time he retires.

等到勒布朗退役的時候，他就會打破自己創造的記錄了。

[–]stayingup2date 192 指標 10小時前

I hope he doesn"t break the record at Boston. I hope he breaks it at Golden State.

That said, I hope he scores only 27 points and ends up with 7 assists and 7 rebounds so we get a LeBron for the first time (while tying MJ"s record).

我希望他不要在波士頓打破這個記錄，最好是在對陣勇士時去完成。

也就是說，我希望他只得到27分，並且最終拿下7助攻，7籃板，從而我們能在歷史上看到第一個「樂邦」（同時可能打破喬丹的記錄）。

[–]Cavaliers BandwagonTmwill87 78 指標 8小時前

He"s never had a LeBron (27/7/7) in a game

勒布朗從來沒有在任何一場比賽中拿到一個樂邦（27/7/7）。

[–][PHI] JaVale McGeeInboardPG 209 指標 11小時前

Maybe he blew game 3 on purpose so he could beat the record in Boston /s

也許勒布朗是故意在G3中放水，從而他就能在波士頓創造歷史了。

[–]BullsJC_Frost 11 指標 9小時前

LePayback

復仇詹。

[–]RaptorsDeKobe-DeBryant 69 指標 11小時前

I wish he got it at home, the ovation would have been great.

Getting it in Boston is pretty funny too, considering everything he"s been through in that arena.

我倒希望他在主場達成這一紀錄，到時候人們的喝彩將會非常棒。

但是在波士頓創造歷史也很有趣，考慮到勒布朗在那座場館裡經歷的往事。

[–]LakersYouKnowMyName925 49 指標 11小時前

I hope he finishes the game at like 25 or 26 so his first bucket of the finals will be the one to pass MJ.

我希望勒布朗在東決最後一場比賽里拿到25或者26分，那樣總決賽里他的第一次得分就將超越喬丹創造歷史。

[–][CLE] Matthew Dellavedovatyler9090 140 指標 11小時前

Pretty soon it"ll be all about padding his #1 records

很快勒布朗就會成為各項數據排名的第一了。

[–][GSW] Klay ThompsonMrVanillaIceTCube 79 指標 9小時前

Not this one tho, you know Jordan"s gonna unretire.

然而並不是這個記錄，你知道喬丹會再次復出的。

[–][CHI] Taj GibsonPrancingDonkey 6 指標 8小時前

The Kareem and Stockton records are untouchable though.

但是賈巴爾和斯托克頓的記錄幾乎是不可觸及的。

[–]Heat Bandwagonwell_bang_okay 30 指標 8小時前

Stockton yes, but he can break Kareem"s.

斯托克頓的確實無法觸及，但是勒布朗能夠打破賈巴爾的記錄。

[–]Spurs BandwagonAsnSensation 7 指標 7小時前

Lebron is about 10,000 points away from Kareem and has a career average of 2056 points per season. Definitely possible even if LeDecline eventually sets in to do it within 5-7 years.

勒布朗目前離賈巴爾的總得分還差10000分，生涯為止勒布朗的賽季平均得分為2056分，他超越賈巴爾是絕對可能的，就算勒布朗狀態開始下滑了，他也能在5~7年內完成這一成就。

[–]BullsAIfie 16 指標 7小時前

Stockton"s still blows my mind every now and then.

斯托克頓總能時不時的讓我大吃一驚。

[–]CelticsJewhannusberg 7 指標 4小時前

The small(er) fundamental?

小基本功？

[–]kevinwilson16 80 指標 9小時前*

Let"s first agree the five key categories are points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks.

Playoff career totals: James is No. 2 in points, No. 3 in assists, No. 7 in rebounds and No. 3 in steals. He"s going to be No. 1 in points this year and No. 1 in steals next year, and he"ll move to No. 6 in rebounds and stay third in assists (maybe he can pass Stockton, but Magic is way ahead). He"s No. 21 in blocks, but he"s 49 away from the Top 10 right now.

He"s the only one who"s top 10 in four categories, the only one who"s top three in three categories and the only one who"s top two in two categories. Among the top 10 rebounders, he"s the only one who"s also in the top 10 on either assists or steals.

首先我們都同意數據中最重要的5欄就是：得分，籃板，助攻，搶斷和蓋帽好了。

季後賽生涯數據：勒布朗在總得分榜排第2，總助攻榜排第3，總籃板榜排第7，總搶斷榜排第3。今年他將會在得分上得到第1，明年搶斷就是第1了，之後勒布朗會前進到籃板榜的第6名，助攻上保持在第3（也許他能超過斯托克頓，但是離魔術師的距離還非常遠）。他在蓋帽上排第21，但是離前10名只差49個蓋帽了。

勒布朗是唯一一個在4項數據中都排進前10的球員，唯一一個在3項數據中都進入前3的球員，並且是唯一一個在2項數據中都位列前2的球員。在籃板榜的前10中，他是唯一一個在助攻或者搶斷里也排在前10的球員。

[–]Vancouver GrizzliesXero188 9 指標 8小時前

Its not really that surprising though. Hes been to the finals every year since 2011. Thats a lot of games. Also they had 5 game series awhile back.

Still no one comes close to averaging what Jordan did. Jordan sits at 33.45 The player closest to him in 2nd is Iverson at 29.73

不過真的沒有看上去這麼出色，從2011年開始，每年勒布朗都打進了總決賽，這就包含了很多比賽了，另外當時喬丹的年代還有過5局制的季後賽。

但是仍然沒有任何人的場均數據能夠接近喬丹，喬丹場均33.45分，第二名和他最接近的球員是艾弗森，場均29.73分。

[–]Spursgila-monster 1026 指標 11小時前

Lebrons stats are inflated because he didn"t lose in the first round like MJ though

勒布朗的數據被誇大了，因為他從來沒有像喬丹那樣在第一輪里就被淘汰。

[–]Spursgila-monster 283 指標 11小時前

Lol I just can"t believe people think losing in the finals is less impressive than the first round regardless of the opponent. Im still laughing from the other days thread

哈哈哈，我只是不敢相信人們認為在總決賽里輸球沒有比在首輪輸球更讓人印象深刻，而且並不考慮對手。前幾天的這個帖子仍然讓我感到好笑。

[–]Cavaliersgogata95 386 指標 11小時前

he was making a joke brah

他是在開玩笑呢，老哥。

[–]CavaliersIm-A-W1zard 16 指標 11小時前

I cant differentiate between jokes and hate anymore

現在我已經分辨不出玩笑和憎恨了。

[–]WizardsFIFTYPUFF 34 指標 10小時前

Totally. MJ was such a scrub in those first round losses:

說得太對了，喬丹在這些首輪被淘汰里的表現就是災難：

[–][LAL] Nick YoungRiddickRises 42 指標 9小時前

When people use the 1st round exit argument, it"s not a knock on Jordan"s individual play, it"s a knock on the 6-0 in the finals shit. It"s a reminder that good players still need good teams to win chips.

當人們舉出喬丹首輪出局的論點來時，這並不是對他個人表現的貶低，而是對喬丹總決賽6-0戰績的反駁，因為這總能提醒你們，偉大的球員仍然需要出色的隊友去贏得總決賽。

[–][CLE] LeBron Jamesyoder_79 指標 11小時前

But how many more games?!!

那麼勒布朗多用了幾場比賽才打破這個記錄呢？

[–]LakersUJ95x 5 指標 9小時前

More games but fewer FGA

確實勒布朗需要的比賽更多，但是出手數更少。

[–]CavaliersIm-A-W1zard 335 指標 11小時前

Hes passing him on 100 or so less shots.

勒布朗在比喬丹出手少100次或更多的情況下打破了他的記錄。

[–]KnicksMethodman6 13 指標 11小時前

Because no one took threes in Jordan"s era

因為在喬丹的年代，沒人會投三分。

[–]CavaliersIm-A-W1zard 62 指標 11小時前

Jordan wasnt a good 3 point shooter.

然而喬丹本人的三分球也不行。

[–][MIL] Thon Makernomitycs 61 指標 11小時前*

because 3 point shooting wasn"t as important as it is now

e You guys seriously trying to tell me that this isn"t a factor...

the Bulls/supersonics each made 30 3s in the 1996 finals..

Curry alone made 30 in last years finals, the Warriors 100 3PM in total.

In 1996 the average team shot 16 3s per game making 6, the Rockets this year regularly take 50 3s a game.. 3 point shooting is vastly more important nowadays

只是因為當時3分球的重要性並沒有現在這麼大罷了。

然而你們卻總想非常認真的告訴我，這並不是影響因素...

在1996年的總決賽里，公牛/超音速兩支球隊各自只命中了30記三分...

而在去年的總決賽里，庫里一個人就投進了30記三分，勇士全隊一共投進了100記三分。

在1996年，平均每支球隊每場比賽只會投16個三分，命中其中6個，而今年的火箭隊經常單場比賽就出手50記三分...3分球顯然在現在的聯盟中更重要。

[–][MIL] Thon Makernomitycs 12 指標 10小時前

it wasn"t as important a facet in the game as it nowadays, there"s a reason all the top 3 pt records are held by recently active players...

顯然過去三分球並不像現在這樣如此的重要，所有三分球記錄上的第一名都是最近在聯盟里打過球的球員是有原因的。

[–][SEA] Fred Brownbuffalotrace 22 指標 10小時前

Jordan"s playoff 3 pt percentage is better than LBJs. The difference is James plays in a different era that is significantly less physical and rewards players with fts often when little to no contact is made based off of "anticipation". As far as percentages go, Jordan shot better form the line, the field, and the arc. He just did so in 21 less games because of things like 5 game series and retirement.

喬丹季後賽的三分球命中率比勒布朗還要出色一些，區別在於勒布朗打球時代的身體對抗程度相比喬丹而言顯著的降低了，而且就算身體接觸很小，裁判們也會基於「預判」的行為而獎勵球員們罰球。真正考慮到命中率的話，喬丹的罰球命中率，總體命中率和三分命中率都比勒布朗高，他在那個季後賽曾經只有5場的時代，以及經歷過好幾次退役後，仍然在少于勒布朗21場比賽的情況下拿到了這樣的分數。

[–]Sunszephah 8 指標 11小時前

He shot 33% for his career from 3, he just didn"t shoot them in volume

喬丹的生涯三分命中率為33%，他只是投得不多罷了。

[–][LAL] Kobe BryantDontTouchMyRaf 23 指標 11小時前

Jesus lol crazy how the narrative switches after lebron has a good game

天啊，哈哈哈，在勒布朗表現出色贏球後論壇風向轉的也太快了吧。

[–]RaptorsFourCylinder 66 指標 10小時前

The narrative should never switch, good to bad game. I don"t understand it. One bad game doesn"t define him, one good game doesn"t define him. His last 14 years of utterly insane basketball defines him.

關於勒布朗真正的評價從來就沒轉變過，不管是好的比賽還是差的比賽，我就不明白這一點了，一場表現糟糕的比賽不會定義他，一場好的比賽也不會定義他，而是過去14年間勒布朗完全令人驚嘆的表現定義了他的職業生涯。

[–][SAS] Kawhi Leonardjimalloneword 40 指標 9小時前

the narrative only changes because when cleveland wins, lebron fans get on more threads. when cleveland loses, lebron haters get on more threads. the narratives don"t change for people, just the people commenting do.

只有論壇的風向會變，因為當騎士贏球時，勒布朗的粉絲就會發更多的帖子；當他們輸球時，黑子們就會發更多的帖子。對勒布朗的評價不會隨著人們而改變，只是評論會變罷了。

[–]Cavaliers Bandwagonscooba2 15 指標 8小時前

This sub is fun, you can say the same thing in two different threads, in one you"d get +30 in the other you"d be at -105

這個論壇很有意思，你可以在兩個不同的帖子中發同樣的評論，然後一個會得到30+的贊，另外一個就會得到-105的滅。

[–]Cavaliersschoolsterz 14 指標 10小時前

The funniest was people arguing that one bad game 3 was permanently damaging to his legacy and he would never pass Jordan now

最搞笑的人們都在說，僅僅一場G3的糟糕表現便會傷害他的成就，而且現在他永遠不會超過喬丹了。

[–]KnickedUp 1 指標 1小時前

the big difference being, Lebron has a bad game about once every 4 years.

最大的區別在於，勒布朗大概每4年才會打出一場糟糕的表現。

[–]Raptorsrealsomalipirate 143 指標 11小時前

I get that some lebron stans are annoying but how can you be a fan of basketball and hate on his legacy or his talent, it"s embarrassing and shows that you"re not an nba fan.

我知道有些勒布朗的腦殘粉們很討厭，但是如果你喜歡籃球的話，怎麼可能去憎恨他的成就或是天賦呢，這就很尷尬了，顯示了你並不是一個真正的NBA球迷。

[–]PelicansLouLouis 59 指標 10小時前

This is what I try to tell people. Imagine watching Wilt in his prime, or Kareem, or Jordan. None of those players are playing today, but we have the gift of watching a player on the same caliber as those-Lebron James. We are witnessing a top-3 player of all time, we are very lucky.

這就是我總想告訴人們的，想像一下你正在欣賞巔峰的張伯倫打球吧，或是賈巴爾，喬丹。然而他們其中沒有任何一個人現在還在聯盟中打球，但是我們很幸運能夠擁有一個和他們同樣級別的球員——勒布朗-詹姆斯。我們正在見證一個史上前三的球員，我們非常幸運。

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