勒布朗耐艹級別跟現代籃球完全不在一個次元上！

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勒布朗耐艹級別跟現代籃球完全不在一個次元上！

LeDurable James belongs to a different era [OC]

詹姆斯的耐久程度可以說是完全屬於另一個時代。

Y軸=前14個賽季的總上場時間（季後賽加常規賽）

X軸=進入聯盟的時間

六個標註出來的名字，從左到右，從上到下的順序依次為

張伯倫，埃爾文海耶斯，賈巴爾，卡爾馬龍，勒布朗詹姆斯，伊戈達拉

[–]NBAsergeantkh2 446 指標 1 天前

lmao still cant believe Wilt averaged 48.5 min in a season.

哈哈哈哈我還是不敢相信張伯倫有個賽季場均48.5分鐘。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryanthowdoesilogin 219 指標 1 天前*

Averaged 45.8 for his career and 47.2 per game in the playoffs.

In his last two seasons at age 35 and 36 the lakers made the finals back to back (winning in "72 and losing in "73) Wilt was on the bench for a total of only 32 minutes in those two playoff runs (32 games)

職業生涯場均45.8分鐘，季後賽場均47.2分鐘。

在他35和36歲時的最後兩個賽季里，湖人連續殺進了總決賽（72年贏了，73年輸了）而兩年的季後賽里，張伯倫加起來只在在板凳上坐了32分鐘。

[–][CLE] J.R. Smith98rman 152 指標 1 天前

He rested for .8 minutes per game in the playoffs? What a scrub

他季後賽場均一場居然要休息0.8分鐘？？？真是個渣渣。

[–][CLE] Manny HarrisSwift_taco_mechanic 80 指標 1 天前

That was probably the last 3 minutes of blowouts every few games too

估計那些時間就是偶爾會有比賽被打花時候剩下的最後3分鐘。

[–]Pelicanshadwar 64 指標 1 天前

different era tho, the tempo was much higher so it was easier to.. oh w8 what

時代不一樣了呀，當時節奏更快，所以會更容易做到（上場時間多）……噫，等一下，不太對勁啊……

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryanthowdoesilogin 58 指標 1 天前

Yeah thats the thing that changed my view about Wilt. Fuck the points and boards that can be chalked up to pace, the level of competition etc. But playing season after season basically without sitting on the bench? That"s just unreal.

Imagine what that guy could do now with all the advanced data on lineups and bench rotations. Like you have a problem like OKC does the team is really bad when Westbrook sits, with Wilt you dont have that problem, ever (he never fouled out of a game in his career either). Plus he"s going 10-15 minutes a game against backup guys

是啊，就是這個事情改變了我對張伯倫的看法。那種節奏快刷出來的得分和籃板不說，比賽競爭的激烈程度也不說。但是一個接一個的賽季，他都幾乎不需要在板凳席上休息？這太不現實了

想一想再加上現在的這些關於陣容調配的高階數據，還有板凳輪換。就比如雷霆這樣的球隊，威斯布魯克一下場休息球隊表現就變差，但如果是張伯倫的話，這樣的問題就從來不存在的（他從來沒有在職業生涯的任何一場比賽里被罰下）。而且他還有10-15分鐘對上的是對面的替補球員。

[–]WizardsPOINT_DADDY_HARDEN 45 指標 1 天前

Imagine being that benched backup centre though lol. Looking forward to that 20 seconds of playing time each game.

哈哈哈想像一下自己是那個給張伯倫做替補的人，每場只能期盼著自己上場的那20秒鐘。

[–]CavaliersStosstruppe 62 指標 1 天前

This has to be the real unreachable record right? That"s pretty fucking insane for any players regardless of era to do.

張伯倫這個肯定是真的最不可能達到的記錄了吧？不管那個年代，任何一個球員做到這個都很瘋狂吧。

[–]Trail BlazersnotDAME 46 指標 1 天前

most unreachable record in sports that i know of

我了解的體育項目里。最不可能達到的記錄。

[–]TimberwolvesYouArentMe 77 指標 1 天前

In Wilt"s 1962 season he averaged 48.52 minutes a game. There were only 80 games back then, so at 48 minutes a game there were 3840 total minutes in that season. Now accounting for overtime games, of which they had 7, including a double OT game and a triple OT game, it adds a total of 50 minutes to the season. Wilt played a total of 3882 minutes that season, meaning he missed only 8 total minutes of playtime throughout that entire season including OT games.

張伯倫在1962年的那個賽季，場均48.52分鐘。當時只有80場比賽，所以48分鐘一場，那個賽季一共是3840分鐘。再算上打了加時的比賽，一共七場，包括一個雙加時，還有一個三加時。一共給那個賽季又加了50分鐘。張伯倫那個賽季一共打了3882分鐘，意味著他那個賽季算上加時一共只錯過了8分鐘的比賽。

[–][GSW] Andre Iguodalacoconuts3 24 指標 1 天前

Thats absolutely disgusting. Was there a single stat he didn"t stuff the hell out of? I feel like there wasn"t, he did literally everything.

太噁心啦！到底有沒有哪個數據沒有被他的名字塞得滿滿當當？？我覺得是不存在的，他幾乎啥都做到過了。

[–]Speed_Bump 47 指標 1 天前

He never fouled out in his career. He felt he was paid to be on the court playing so he was more judicious when he got in foul trouble.

他還從來沒在比賽里被罰下過。他覺得自己領工資就是要在場上打球，所以他一陷入犯規麻煩就開始變得很謹慎。

[–][NYK] Kristaps Porzingiseduardonachocamacho 13 指標 1 天前*

It"s worth pointing out, though, that the level of effort he had to exert was nothing compared to LeBron, or even Hayes for that matter.

If you watch his old games, specifically those early on, it was like watching a high school senior against middle schoolers. Sure he"s running around, but he"s not taking any abuse on a near daily basis like LeBron.

So really, if there was a way to calculate for attained stress on the body per minute (obviously something incalculable), LeBron would be far and away the leader in, I don"t know what you"d call it, "body-miles per minute"?

但還是值得指出一下他需要付出的努力，跟詹姆斯或者是海耶斯比起來不是一個級別的。

如果你看他原來的比賽，尤其是那些早年間的，就好像是看著高中畢業生對付初中生一樣。確實他也在場上跑來跑去，但他並不用每天承受詹姆斯的身體所承受的那種濫用。

所以講真，如果可以通過某種方式檢測出身體平均每分鐘所承受的壓力（很明顯計算不出來）。詹姆斯肯定會領先很多，我不知道這個該怎麼稱呼，「身體每分鐘里程數」？

[–]nowhathappenedwas 377 指標 1 天前

While LeBron is obviously ridiculously durable, this chart is a combination of his durability and his excellence.

First, LeBron was excellent enough to get huge minutes as a rookie. If you look at seasons 3-14, LeBron is essentially tied with Dirk, Kobe, Garnett, and Joe Johnson in regular season minutes.

Second, LeBron was excellent enough to repeatedly take his teams deep into the postseason. For example, Gary Payton played just 500 fewer regular season minutes than LeBron through 14 seasons, but LeBron has nearly 4000 extra minutes in the postseason. And LeBron began his career the year after the first round was expanded, so he"s basically the only star on the chart who"s played a full 14 seasons under the expanded playoffs.

Also, it should be noted that he appears to be more of an outlier than he actually is due to the Y-axis starting at 35000 rather than 0.

當然詹姆斯的持久力非常令人吃驚，但這個表格也是對於詹姆斯持久力和優秀程度的綜合反應。

首先，詹姆斯很優秀在新秀賽季就可以得到大把的上場時間。如果你看他第3-14個賽季的話，詹姆斯基本上和諾維茨基，科比，加內特，還有喬約翰遜都打了相同的常規賽時間。

第二，詹姆斯足夠優秀，可以讓自己的球隊每次季後賽之旅都很深入。舉個例子，加里佩頓打到第14個賽季常規賽只比詹姆斯少打了500分鐘的比賽，但詹姆斯在季後賽卻比他多了整整4000分鐘。同時詹姆斯進入聯盟的時候，首輪比賽已經從五局三勝制變成了七局四勝制。所以他基本上就是表格里唯一一個打了整整14個賽季的加長版季後賽的球員。

同時，應該注意到，他比他本應該在的位置看起來更在整個表格的輪廓之外，是因為Y軸是從35000開始的，而不是0。

[–]Jacien-Visenad 508 指標 1 天前

But he rested that one time!

Think of the fans!

I"m triggered!

但是他輪休了一次啊！

考慮一下球迷！

我被惹怒了！

[–]miriczivojin 146 指標 1 天前

"Back injury", sabbatical, MVP"s don"t take games off.

「後背傷病」，休息，MVP才不會選擇輪休比賽。

[–][PHI] Chris Webbertheb3arjevv 37 指標 1 天前

There are quite a few super durable guys still around. DeAndre Jordan and Tristain Thompson are both extremely physical and have missed like one game a piece in their careers.

現在還是有不少耐久力優秀的球員的。小喬丹和特里斯坦湯普森身體素質都極為出色，可能各自的職業生涯都只缺席過一場比賽吧。

[–]Rockets BandwagonKsanti 86 指標 1 天前

Both DJ and Tristan"s career highs in minutes per game are lower than Lebron"s career low.

小喬丹和湯普森的職業生涯最高場均出場時間，都比詹姆斯職業生涯最低出場時間低。

[–][CLE] LeBron Jamesjloy88 10 指標 1 天前

If you combine his games with the Olympic national team and the playoffs James has played 3.5 seasons more basketball than an average NBA player who played the same amount of seasons. he has literally played 17.5 seasons of basketball in 14.

如果再算上他在奧林匹克國家隊的比賽時間和他在季後賽里的時間，詹姆斯比一般的，跟他打了相同年限的NBA球員多打了整整3.5個賽季。他真的是等於在14年里打了17.5個賽季。

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