美球迷嚴肅G4賽後：騎士的勝利毫無意義還是真意味著有機會搶7？

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美球迷嚴肅G4賽後：騎士的勝利毫無意義還是真意味著有機會搶7？

[Serious] [Post Game Thread]The Cleveland Cavaliers (1-3) defeat the Golden State Warriors (3-1) 137-116

[嚴肅G4賽後討論】:騎士（1-3）以137-116擊敗了勇士（3-1）。

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[–]NBActye85 26 指標 3小時前

Just think, this could be 2-2 if the Cavs had held it together at the end of game 3. I do think the Dubs will close this out in 5 games, but if it were 2-2 now I could see it going 7. Too bad.

I"m hoping LeBron hangs on and averages a triple double for the finals though. Win or lose, that"d be another thing to add to his crazy career.

想想看，本來大比分可能會是2-2，如果騎士在G3的末尾能夠堅持住的話。我確實相信勇士能夠在第五場里結束這輪比賽，但是如果現在是2-2的話，我便仍然能夠看到G7的希望，太糟了。

我希望勒布朗能夠堅持住，並在總決賽里場均三雙，不管贏還是輸，這都會成為另外一項被寫進他瘋狂生涯中的成就。

[–]madlax5 2 指標 15 分鐘前

If the Cavs aren"t abysmal from three in game 3 it"d be 2-2 right now. In game 3, Cavs players not named LeBron or JR shot 3/25 from three per ESPN"s box score.

如果騎士在G3的三分球不那麼糟糕的話，現在就是2-2了。在G3的時候，除了勒布朗和JR外，騎士其他所有球員在三分線外25投3中，來自ESPN的技術統計。

[–]WarriorsVespucciJoker[S] 14 指標 3小時前

The Cavs were absolutely scorching from 3, it"s just a shame that the refs being awful (not consistent on both sides) has slightly overshadowed their performance

這場比賽騎士顯然3分手感極熱，但是糟糕的裁判們（對兩方都沒能保持一致性）則為他們卓越的表現蒙上了一層陰影，這令人羞恥。

[–]dr_haze 3 指標 3小時前

Will this go down as a "meaningless" win or do the Cavs actually have a chance of taking this in 7?

這會成為一場「毫無意義」的勝利，還是說騎士真的有機會把比賽拖進搶七？

[–]HeatDolfanz019 14 指標 3小時前

If they win Monday, I"ll believe. Even if they still end up losing in 5, that looks much better than getting swept

如果騎士贏下了下周一（美國時間）的比賽，那我就相信會進入搶七。就算他們G5輸球，結束整個系列賽，這也比被橫掃看起來好多了。

[–][LAC] Chris Paulsakata32 7 指標 2小時前

Being the team that stopped this great Warriors team from getting a perfect record in the playoffs is meaningful in my book even if they lost the next game.

在我看來，就算騎士輸掉了下一場，作為阻止這支偉大勇士獲得完美季後賽記錄的球隊也是非常有意義的。

[–]WarriorsVespucciJoker[S] 4 指標 3小時前

If the Cavs can sustain 53% from 3 on 45 attempts a game, I think they can push a game 7. Thats if they manage to get an early foothold in the game, like in game 4.

如果騎士能夠保持每場比賽出手45記三分，命中率53%這種水平的話，我覺得他們能把比賽拖進搶7。發生這些的條件就是他們在比賽早期就成功的找到了節奏，就像G4這樣。

[–][CLE] Ricky Davisrandalflagg 2 指標 1小時前

LeBron James with his back to the wall is not something I think you can even game plan against.

我不覺得任何比賽計劃能夠限制住背水一戰的勒布朗-詹姆斯。

[–]dr_haze 1 指標 49 分鐘前

Yeah I agree but he"s not really the problem - the question for me is whether Kyrie, but especially Love, J.R., etc. can step up for 3 games in a row. And then you need the Warriors to go relatively cold for 3 games as well. Not sure whether that"s possible but we"ll see!

是的，我同意，但是他真的不是勇士輸球的問題所在——對於我來說，問題在於歐文，而且特別是樂福，JR等等其他球員是否能夠連續3場比賽都站出來。同時你也需要勇士在這3場比賽里都保持一個相對較冷的手感才行。不確定這是否可能，等著看唄。

[–][LAC] Chris Paulsakata32 2 指標 3小時前

I expect Cavs big 3 to show up big again next game but if they want to win game 5 they need Tristan Thompson to show up again along with another shooter like JR did tonight.

我能夠指望騎士的三巨頭在下場比賽里有同樣出色的發揮，但是如果他們想要贏下G5的話，他們需要TT再次站住出來，同時JR也要有今晚這樣的表現。

[–][HOU] Hakeem Olajuwongoat0 2 指標 3小時前

the cavaliers can"t keep this shooting up for the rest of the series but they still have the best player in the world so... Cavaliers in 7

騎士肯定不會在剩下的比賽中一直保持今晚這樣的手感，但是他們仍然擁有世界上最好的球員，所以...騎士7場勝出。

[–]Warriorswtyl 1 指標 1小時前

It"s a battle of how many all-stars on your team in given game play I"ll show up. Today Draymond was a disappointment to me. Cavs shot the lights out today and I think this type of game is exactly what the CAVS are capable of. Warriors are still favored to win in 5 at this point but this game gave the cavs a lot of hope and well need confidence boost. Game 5 might be like a game 3 in which we won"t know who will really win until the last quarter.

這就是看在某一晚上你的球隊中有幾個全明星能夠站出來。今晚對我來說，格林就很令人失望。騎士今晚的手感火熱，而且我認為騎士是完全有能力打出這樣的比賽的。在現在這個時間點上，勇士仍然被看好著贏下G5，但是今晚的比賽給了騎士非常大的希望，同時他們的自信也得到了極大的提升。G5很可能就像G3一樣，直到比賽結束前，我們都不知道哪一方能夠獲勝。

[–][CHA] Cody ZellerMouthWithAMerc 4 指標 3小時前

I think warriors play best when curry shoots a lot early to get into a groove

我覺得當庫里在比賽早期便找到手感進入狀態時，勇士才能打出最佳表現。

[–]WarriorsDraintheshots 6 指標 3小時前

True, but it was difficult to get into rhythm today because the Cavs were rough on him on D and it didn"t really help them that they turned the ball over or got a foul every time they tried to swing the momentum to their side.

真的是這樣，但是庫里想要進入自己的節奏中非常難，因為騎士對他的防守及其兇狠，而且每當勇士即將起勢時，他們都會出現失誤或者被判犯規，這點對他們可一點幫助也沒有。

[–]Cavaliersyuhanz 2 指標 38 分鐘前

He should initiate the offense, break potential Cavs blitz = open three/dunk.

庫里應該成為進攻的發起點，擊破騎士的閃電戰=空位三分/扣籃。

[–]MavericksDima_Kenose 1 指標 3小時前

Ye I noticed during the regular season that a lot of the time when KD takes control as the #1 option Curry tends to play painfully below his best.

是的，我注意到在常規賽的很多時候，當杜蘭特接管比賽成為第一選擇時，庫里總是傾向於痛苦地在自己最佳水準之下打球。

[–]therealsheriff 3 指標 3小時前

Total team effort from the Cavs. They will have to keep playing well as a team in order to pull off the impossible. Pretty crazy we were a Kevin Durant dagger away from 2-2.

這場勝利是騎士全隊努力的結果。如果騎士想要實現不可能的逆轉，他們必須要在球隊整體上保持今晚這樣的出色表現。非常瘋狂的是，我們離2-2就差一記杜蘭特的冷血三分。

[–][PHO] Michael ReddSunsFan97 4 指標 3小時前

除去裁判的原因不說，騎士今晚在三分線外就是手感爆棚了。我不指望他們在下一場比賽中還能有這樣的表現，在我看來他們的套路非常糟糕，就只是讓勒布朗拿著球，然後等著他去找到處於空位中的球員。我不確定這是否足夠去贏下總冠軍。

歐文今晚的表現非常了不起，他命中了難度極高的投籃，而且當球在他手裡時，他就是只野獸。歐文在左右兩側都能夠為自己創造投籃機會，儘管我看到了一些糟糕的投籃，但是當你手感如此火熱時，這並不要緊。

我仍然覺得勇士能夠贏下G5，因為就算這場比賽他們被揍的很狼狽，但是場上的轉移球仍然做得很棒，所以在我看來這是個好的徵兆。我希望看到勇士給庫里多打一些戰術，因為顯然騎士就是想著讓杜蘭特一個人去擊敗他們。當勇士在高位讓庫里和格林/杜蘭特去打擋拆時，騎士便會瘋狂的包夾他。

而且我不知道為什麼勇士沒有在傑弗森防守杜蘭特時讓他付出足夠的代價，因為顯然傑弗森什麼也做不了。儘管我猜測的是勇士不想讓球星們單打，因為他們希望球能夠在場上持續的移動。

總體來說，這並不是一場好看的比賽，然而儘管被打花了，勇士看起來仍然很不錯，這才讓人覺得可怕。

Refs thing aside the Cavs were just *河蟹* from beyond the arc. And I don"t expect them to keep if up for the next game. Their set was awful IMO, it"s literally just get LeBron the ball and let him find you. I don"t know if that"s enough to win a ring.

Kyrie was fantastic tonight though, he hit amazingly tough shots and was a beast with the ball in his hands. He was creating shots left and right although I saw some bad shots here and there but it doesn"t matter when you"re that hot.

I still think the Warriors will win in game 5 since their ball movement was still there even though they were taking a beating so IMO that"s a good sign. I"d like to see them run a little more plays for Steph since clearly the Cavs want KD to beat them. The Cavs were doubling Steph like crazy when they ran those high post splits with Dray/KD.

And I don"t know why they didn"t abuse RJ on KD enough since clearly there"s nothing RJ can do. Although I guess they don"t want to play ISO ball and they want the ball to continue moving so.

All in all it wasn"t a pretty game but the Warriors still look great that game even if it was a blowout which is scary.

[–]WarriorsGrandpaGunther 2 指標 3小時前

Curry should be taking way more than 13 shots. It"s so much harder to get into a rhythm when you"re shooting that sporadically.

庫里應該出手比13次多得多的投籃，當你只是如此零星的出手時，是很難進入節奏的。

[–]WarriorsVespucciJoker[S] 2 指標 3小時前

Completely agree, sometimes Kerr really annoys me when he uses Curry as a glorified decoy. But it was hard for Curry to get open given how physical the Cavs defence was being

完全同意，有時候科爾真的讓我非常生氣，尤其是當他把庫里用作誘餌時。但是考慮到騎士防守庫里時的身體強度，他得到空位確實非常難。

[–]Warriorsjmnoon25 1 指標 2小時前

庫里總是打無球，而且只出手了13次投籃。科爾需要讓庫里成為主要的控球手，並圍繞著他打一些最基本的擋拆配合，而且顯然庫里是NBA里打擋拆最出色的球員之一。當由庫里發起進攻時，這支勇士才是最棒的，他是進攻的引擎，沒了他勇士便不夠優秀。就算是由格林發起進攻，也可以，但是千萬別讓杜蘭特成為進攻的發起點，除此之外再別用庫里給杜蘭特做無球掩護了。你不能再讓庫里打無球了，其他球隊能夠如此粗暴的對待他，而躲過裁判的吹罰，而且你也不能讓他面對勒布朗或是TT時去做無球掩護，這樣會耗光他的體力的。今晚的整場比賽中庫里都退居其次，上半場幾乎沒怎麼摸球，直到第3節他才開始運球，打一些擋拆。也就是這時候他連續送出了7記助攻，幫助勇士完成了整場比賽中唯一一次有威脅的反擊。常規賽里我們就經歷過這些事情，也打得非常掙扎，但是一旦我們接受了這是庫里的球隊時，我們在場上的表現便重新好了起來。

Curry played off the ball and only attempted 13 shots. Kerr you need to use Curry as the primary ball handler and run basic pick and rolls with Curry who"s arguably the best p&r player in the NBA. This team is at it"s best when it"s ran through Curry, he"s the engine to the offense and without him they"re not good enough. Even if it"s running through Draymond it"s ok but don"t run it through Durant ffs and on top of that don"t use Curry as an off ball screener for Durant. You can"t let Curry play off the ball where teams maul him and get away with it and you can"t use him setting screens against TT and LeBron, he"ll get weared down physically. He took a backseat the entire game and barely touched the ball in the first half, in the 3rd quarter he came out dribbling the ball and ran the pick and roll and he had 7 straight assists and was the only memorable run from the Warriors in the game. We"ve already been through this during the regular season where we were struggling but once we accepted it was Curry"s team and gave him the ball we played good again.

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