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鄧肯聰明絕頂多才多藝碰巧成為籃球巨星,沒看過巔峰鄧肯真是遺憾!

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鄧肯聰明絕頂多才多藝碰巧成為籃球巨星,沒看過巔峰鄧肯真是遺憾!


[Wojnarowski] Monty Williams on Tim Duncan: "He never got the credit that I feel he should of gotten for his IQ. People knew he was a smart player but if they knew, or be in the conversations we had on a daily basis about the team and the league, they would be astounded how smart he is." (self.nba)


蒙蒂-威廉姆斯作客Woj播客時談及蒂姆-鄧肯:「以我的了解,鄧肯的智商極高,而他並沒有得到應有的稱讚。人們只知道他是個聰明的球員,但如果他們能聽到我和鄧肯每天就球隊和聯盟所進行的交流,就會知道鄧肯到底有多聰明,而這一定會讓他們大吃一驚的。」




Woj播客轉送門:https://bbs.hupu.com/19690593.html




[–]Heat BandwagonSlimshady305 442 指標 18小時前


Inb4 Tim Duncan does his own taxes.


不說別的,鄧肯處理稅務全靠自己。


[–][MEM] Hamed Haddadifreudianchips 193 指標 19小時前


I love the story about him tutoring people in chemistry at Wake Forest. He"s a reserved genius who just happened to be an all-time great basketball player


鄧肯有件事讓我非常喜歡:在維克森林大學上學時,他給別人輔導過化學。他其實是個深藏不露的天才,只是碰巧成了史上最偉大的籃球運動員之一。


[–]Supersonicsbigfashionmeme 81 指標 14小時前


I wouldn"t say he"s a genius, but definitely a noticeably smart guy and obviously incredibly smart compared to other basketball players


我不會把他稱作「天才」,但他的確是個很聰明的傢伙,而且比其他的籃球運動員要聰明得多。


[–]Thunderthetrain23 15 指標 12小時前


My favorite Tim Duncan story is that he"s actually a published co-author in a psychology book:


我最喜歡的鄧肯的一件事是:他是一本心理學著作的聯合作者之一。




相關新聞報道;http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/07/tim-duncan-psychology-book-about-egotism-college-wake-forest-spurs-retirement




[–]RaptorsTaxonomyoftaxes 7 指標 10小時前


Bruh I was a teaching assistant in the sciences and I"m definitely not a genius. Genius has a special connotation, most really smart people aren"t geniuses.


哥們兒,我干過大學助教,但我絕對不是一個「天才」。 「天才」這個詞有它的專門解釋,大多數非常聰明的人還稱不上「天才」。





[–]SpursLemurians 21 指標 17小時前


Makes sense. One of the few guys in the league who finished college.


有道理。鄧肯是聯盟里少有的上完大學的球員。


[–]SpursGenderBlenderJerome 30 指標 17小時前


It"s crazy how much Tim Duncan I see in kawhi, it makes me feel like kawhi will have that same loyalty that Tim did to the spurs.


在倫納德身上,我看到了鄧肯的影子——這真瘋狂——也讓我覺得倫納德對馬刺會像鄧肯一樣忠誠。


[–]Thunderboaahancock 26 指標 17小時前


I could not agree more. Kawhi seems like the perfect superstar to take the torch from Timmy. Glad that the Spurs have a talent like that and I really do hope Kawhi ends his career as a Spur and hopefully with more rings. Luckily for him the Spurs have one of the best front office operations in the NBA and will surely put Kawhi in a position to win.


完全同意。小卡看起來就是那個完美接班鄧肯的超級巨星。馬刺能擁有這樣一名天才球員真是太棒了,我真心希望小卡能多拿幾個冠軍然後終老馬刺。倫納德也很幸運,馬刺有聯盟最好的管理層,確保他始終處在贏球的位置。


[–]Lakersso-cal_kid 14 指標 17小時前


That"s in the Spurs" approach to drafting/signing players right? I remember Pop saying something to the effect of we only try to take guys who have gotten over themselves.


這不正是馬刺選擇球員(選秀或簽約)的方式么?我記得波波維奇說過類似的話:我們只要那些能夠戰勝自己、不斷完善自己的球員。


[–]SpursGenderBlenderJerome 7 指標 17小時前


Yeah he"s said something along those lines, but I can"t help wonder if that still applies. Lamarcus and Rudy are great players but I don"t see them as guys that pop would even sign.


沒錯,他說過這樣的話,不過我不禁懷疑這句話到現在是否還管用。阿爾德里奇和蓋伊都很不錯,不過我看不出來他們會是波波想要的那種球員。


[–][SAS] David Robinsoncromulent_weasel 9 指標 12小時前


Well, they also roll the dice with players like SJax. The key is to keep the potential headcases completely surrounded by character guys at all times.


好吧,馬刺曾經也在斯蒂芬-傑克遜這樣的球員身上賭過一把。問題的關鍵是管好這些隨時會惹麻煩的「惡棍」,保證他們的身邊始終都是性格與情緒相對穩定的人。





[–]Trail BlazersExtremeaty 95 指標 19小時前


I"m 20 years old. I really wish Tim came into the league just a couple of years later, just so I could have truly appreciated his prime. Biggest NBA regret of mine.


我今年20歲。我多麼希望鄧肯能晚幾年再進入聯盟,這樣我就能真正地去欣賞巔峰鄧肯打球了。這是我關於NBA最大的遺憾。


[–][PHI] Joel Embiidrahbee33 52 指標 18小時前


In terms of bigs, that"s how I felt about Karl Malone, Barkley, Shawn Kemp, and David Robinson. However, I did get to see Timmy, CWebb, KG, and Shaq go through their primes.


The brightside is you get to see the next generation with guys like AD, KP, Boogie, KAT, maybe Embiid.


要說內線球員,對於卡爾-馬龍、巴克利、肖恩-坎普和大衛-羅賓遜,我的感受和你一樣,很遺憾沒能見證他們的巔峰。但是,我還是看到了巔峰的鄧肯、克里斯-韋伯、加內特和奧尼爾。


所以好的一方面 要向前看,你很可能將見證下一個內線盛世:濃眉、波爾津吉斯、考辛斯、唐斯,或許還有恩比德。


[–]Lakersagenthai7 26 指標 16小時前


As a Laker fan he was annoying to watch. With kobe you see would see him shoot a 21 foot fadeaway over 2 or 3 guys and you knew it was a bad shot but it would be so kobe if he got hot.


Duncan was this dude that just backs down in the post for two dribbles, makes a simple basketball move, and buckets. And he would take forever at the free throw line. For a subpar free throw shooter, I don"t remember him being not clutch when it counted.


The Spurs always felt like that one end boss in those old rpg games where you do a bunch of fancy combos on them, but after the course of the match it"s really only a close game. You would have to save all your ammo at the end to hopefully put you over the edge. I think that"s why Spurs have a handful of heartbreaking losses


作為湖人球迷,看到鄧肯真的很氣。你看慣了科比會出手很多高難度投籃,比如,他會在21英尺外或是迎著兩三名防守球員完成後仰跳投。但你清楚,這就是科比打球的方式,科比要是投開了,就無所不能。


而鄧肯這傢伙,在低位拿球後只是簡單地運兩下球,再來一個簡單的腳步,然後就能輕鬆得分。罰球的時候,感覺他會永遠在罰球線上站下去。鄧肯的罰球也在平均水平以下,但在關鍵時刻,我想不起他有哪次罰丟了。


馬刺一直以來給人的感覺,就好比角色扮演類遊戲里的終極BOSS。你雖然可以在它身上打出幾波爽快的連擊,但經過苦戰,輸贏姑且不論,比分一定會很接近。你最好在戰鬥結束前儲存足夠的彈藥,才有希望取得勝利。我覺得,這就是馬刺很少遭遇慘敗的原因。





[–]SpursWurst_Law 20 指標 16小時前


There are two primes. Athletic dominant prime (2001-2005) and floor general defensive anchor prime (2007-2012.)


The first prime is probably the stuff you missed, because the second prime was ignored by most.


鄧肯有兩個巔峰期:「統治籃下飛天流」時期(2001-2005)和「防守支柱地板流」時期(2007-2012)。


鄧肯第一個巔峰期或許令你懷念,這是因為他第二個巔峰被大多數人所忽略了。


[–]CelticsBradWonder 14 指標 15小時前


Real talk though, Duncan"s "athletic prime" started his rookie year.


說真的,鄧肯的這個「飛天流」巔峰期從他菜鳥賽季就開始了。


[–]Sunsconel11 10 指標 15小時前


He was a 21 yr old rookie though.


His lateral quickness was ridiculous. Probably one of the biggest reasons why he was a lock down defender.


他畢竟是個21歲的「大齡」新秀。


他的橫向移動速度簡直無情。也許這就是他的防守堅如磐石的最主要原因。


[–]Spursgreg9683 2 指標 12小時前


I mean at Duncan"s time, that was standard. It was weirder if you were coming out in 1-2 years. Now players are getting looked at weirdly if they come out at 3 or 4 years. Times have changed....


我的意思是,在鄧肯那個年代,(讀完大學)是很正常的。相反你要是只上了一兩年大學就參加選秀,這會是一件很奇怪的事。而現在,上三四年大學再參加選秀反倒成了怪事。時代真的變了…







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