控衛而論，納什組織更好，庫里進攻更棒，保羅無辜躺槍！

控衛而論，納什組織更好，庫里進攻更棒，保羅無辜躺槍！

[Schuhmann] This remains one of my favorite stats in NBA history. (twitter.com)

這仍然是NBA歷史上我最喜歡的統計數據之一：

[–]Celticsprincekurry 1994 指標 1 天前

For fucks sake it remains a tragedy this man has no championship

這個男人從未拿過冠軍，這特么真是個悲劇。

[–]Spursmuktheduck 148 指標 1 天前

Had the misfortune of playing in a decade when the Spurs and Lakers both had extremely dominant dynasties. I was so happy Dirk managed to dodge that same sentence, it would"ve been pretty sick if Nash had reunited with him for that 2011 run

納什的不幸來源於他在馬刺和湖人都非常具有統治力的時代打球。我是如此地開心，能夠看到諾維茨基成功避開了同樣的境遇，如果納什過去能夠在2011年和他重聚的話，那一定會是一番非常不錯的場景。

[–]Bullspninify 25 指標 23小時前

He also had the misfortune of playing on teams that didn"t play great D. And bad injury luck (lost Amare for a season & Joe Johnson in the playoffs one year). And the Suns just being cheap, they let Johnson leave instead of paying him and sold first round draft picks.

納什的不幸還來源於他一直在防守不好的球隊打球，還有糟糕的傷病（有一年失去了小斯&季後賽里失去了喬-約翰遜）。還有太陽太小氣了，他們寧可放約翰遜走人也不給他提供大一點的合同，並且還賣掉了一些首輪選秀權。

[–][UTA] Mehmet OkurInMyBrokenChair 109 指標 1 天前

MVPs are more important than championships. Jordan couldn"t win a ring surrounded by 11 Kyle Singlers, but he could win MVPs.

MVP比總冠軍更重要。如果你的隊友是11名凱爾-辛格勒，即便是喬丹也不能拿到一個總冠軍戒指，但是他仍然能夠贏得很多MVP。

[–]Wolves BandwagonStarfreeze 338 指標 1 天前

MVPs are more important than championships.

Ask literally any NBA player if an MVP is more important than a championship.

「MVP比總冠軍更重要。」

隨便問一個NBA球員，看看是不是MVP比總冠軍更重要。

[–][UTA] Mehmet OkurInMyBrokenChair 326 指標 1 天前

"Important" is not the right word. But the MVP is the biggest honor a player can accomplish.

「重要」這個詞用的不恰當。但是MVP確實是一名球員能夠獲取的最高榮譽。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryantdakak36 116 指標 1 天前

Yeah, I think rings are more important to the players (I always say Kobe only has one MVP but he"d give it up for another title) but in regards to a player"s legacy, an MVP is more valuable. That"s why no eligible MVP has ever not made the HOF (until D Rose becomes eligible).

是啊，我認為總冠軍戒指對於球員們來說更加重要（我總是說科比僅僅只有一個MVP但是他寧可放棄它去換取另一個總冠軍），但是在球員的成就方面，一個MVP是更有價值的。那就是為什麼有資格當選了MVP的球員從未缺席過名人堂（直到德里克-羅斯當選）。

[–]WarriorsAir_Ball 169 指標 1 天前

people spend more time discounting his mvps than appreciating his playmaking ability. It truly was/is at the top of the list when it comes to playmaking ability. An argument absolutely could be made for first place.

比起欣賞納什出色的組織進攻能力來說，人們總是花費更多的時間來貶低他那些MVP的含金量。當涉及組織進攻能力的時候，他確實無論是在過去還是現在都能夠排在榜單的前列。就算說他組織能力第一絕對也是有論據支撐的。

Always been a tough one as well, i think if nash was in the league today he would be challenged to score far more and he would on really fucking good efficiency, just look at some of his playoff numbers when he was forced to score.

他總是一個難以應對的角色，我認為如果納什在今天的這個聯盟里，他將會被挑戰去得到更多的分數，並且他的效率將會真特么的高，去看看當年他在一些季後賽里被迫去得分的時候的數據吧。

[–][MEM] Acie Lawimatthewhitecastle 132 指標 1 天前

weird that the tweet doesn"t point out that last column, showing that nash literally has led 5 of the top 5 offensive teams since they began recording that as a stat. across two teams. i don"t think it can even be argued that there"s a better offensive PG.

奇怪的是，這條推文並沒有指出最後一篇專欄文章，那顯示了納什在從他的兩個團隊中開始記錄以來，實際上已經帶領了五個最優秀的進攻團隊，我認為甚至沒有必要去爭論是否還有一名比納什更好的進攻控衛。

[–][SAS] Tim Duncanmdmbitch 28 指標 1 天前

offensive? steph. playmaking is definitely nash ten out of ten

進攻最好的控衛？我選庫里。組織進攻來說，納什絕對是滿分。

[–]Sunsmbarnar 13 指標 18小時前

steph has to do it for 9 years to take the crown

庫里不得不用9年的時間去拿到那個皇冠 

Seriously tho Steph in 2016 was the greatest offensive season by far. But he"s gotta maintain that high level for an extended period of time to take the crown.

認真地說，庫里的15-16賽季是迄今為止最偉大的進攻賽季。但他必須在很長一段時間內保持高水平才能去獲得冠軍。

Not saying he won"t. I"m sure when he retires he"ll be unarguably the best offensive PG of all time.. just not yet cuz he"s only had a handful of dominating seasons.

並不是說他保持不了那麼久。我敢肯定，當他退役的時候，他無疑是有史以來最好的進攻控衛...但他暫時還不是，他僅僅統治了幾個賽季而已。

[–][LAL] D"Angelo RussellAbdulGOAT 212 指標 1 天前

Nash > CP3 don"t @ me

納什＞保羅 千萬別@我

[–]Knickstommy_the_tit 11 指標 23 小時前

I mean CP3 is nearly as good at running offenses, better at taking care of the ball, much better at scoring, much better at rebounding (though it doesn"t matter that much) and leagues better at defense.

我覺得保羅在組織進攻方面幾乎和納什一樣好，在控球方面更強，而且在得分和籃板方面（雖然這並不是很重要）要強得多，在防守上也要強出一大截。

The only thing Nash has over CP3 definitively is efficiency.

準確地說，納什唯一高於保羅的地方是他的效率。

CP3 is clearly better than Nash.

保羅明顯比納什要更好。

[–]Lakersnarutotich 8 指標 1 天前

if you want to go by PER... cp3 is better than Magic, Kareem, Duncan, Kobe... But we all know stats don"t win championships.

如果你想要按效率值來評價球員...保羅比魔術師，賈巴爾，鄧肯，科比都要強...但是我們都知道，數據不會贏得總冠軍。

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