馬刺依然是勇士的最強對手？他們依然天賦平平但戰績驚人！

馬刺依然是勇士的最強對手？他們依然天賦平平但戰績驚人！

馬刺球迷網站「AirAlamo」新聞，追夢在談及勇士將要面臨的最大挑戰時表示：「我會說是馬刺。森林狼有了很大提升，火箭和雷霆也變強了。但是，看看馬刺過去取得的成就吧，我真覺得馬刺還是我們最強的對手。他們從來沒大幅度下滑過，上賽季的馬刺可是拿到了60+的勝場。」

 [AirAlamo] Draymond on Warriors toughest challenge: 「For me, it』s the Spurs. I think Minny"s gonna be much improved, Houston improved, OKC improved. I just don』t think you can put anyone above SA because of everything they』ve done. They』ve never had a dropoff; they won 60-something games last year." 

[–]CelticsIfuckinglovebball 992 指標 18小時前

I really don"t know how they can perform so well with their talent level. But they keep doing it, so I"m not going to underestimate them.

我真的真的不知道，馬刺是怎麼憑藉他們的天賦等級達到現在的成就的，可是他們就是穩如狗，這也是我為什麼從來不會小瞧他們。

[–]Knicks Bandwagonearl_smith_thethird 677 指標 18小時前

having a team that doesn"t make mistakes on defense and doesn"t foul is incredibly valuable

一支能夠做到防守端不犯錯誤並控制問題的球隊是非常有價值的。

[–]Wizardsruffus4life 305 指標 16小時前

yep they stay focused in ways that other teams don"t. everytime i see keef get lazy and take a dumb foul i think. pop wouldn"t play this dude for the next 2 games.

奇才球迷：說的沒錯，馬刺有著其他隊伍難以企及的專註度。每次我看到莫里斯懶懶散散、瞎犯規的時候我都會想：換作是波波執教莫里斯，他接下來兩場比賽里就別想上場了。

[–][SAS] Andrew Gazetimrs 347 指標 15小時前

when kawhi didn"t cut hard enough one time last year

sets the standard for everyone

上個賽季，當倫納德空切不夠狠的時候，波波是這麼發飆的。

這種方式真的是給所有人都樹立了一個標杆。

[–][DEN] Nikola JokicImperiumSolis 279 指標 15小時前

This right here is why even if you hate the spurs you gotta respect them. You can see the look on Kawhi when he"s scratching his chin he"s like, God damnit you"re right, and the amount of practice and trust they have in pop and the system is #1 always, and it continues to work.

這種東西就是為什麼即使你狠馬刺恨得牙痒痒，依然會給予他們尊重。你能看到卡哇伊用手摸自己下巴的時候就好像在說「我靠，好吧，你是對的」。他們訓練刻苦，他們有對波波充分的信任，還有聯盟第一的戰術體系，這些讓他們屹立不倒。

[–][HOU] Patrick BeverleyHarden-Soul 190 指標 12小時前*

I really don"t think that was a "you"re right" chin scratch. I think it was a "I"m not sure that would"ve made a difference but I don"t have the battery life to argue right now" chin scratch

我可不覺得那個撓下巴動作是在說「好吧你是對的」，明明是在說「我沒覺得按你說的做就有啥區別啊，可是我要沒電了就不跟你計較了」。

[–]Warriorswizardofaus23 34 指標 11小時前

Plus it"s Pop. Who the fuck is going to argue with Pop?

而且那可是波波維奇啊，誰會跟波波爭吵？

[–]Spursvsn611 30 指標 10小時前

When in doubt, the answer is Joey Crawford

每次產生這種困惑的時候，一般答案都是喬-克勞福德。[譯註1]

[譯註1]前NBA著名裁判，以嚴厲著稱。

[–]Knicks Bandwagonaoifhasoifha 84 指標 15小時前

pop wouldn"t play this dude for the next 2 games.

Nah, Pop isn"t a miracle worker and he"s smart enough to know that- not even he can change guys like keef.

Pop would just never sign a guy who fights with his coaches on the sideline.

「接下來兩場比賽莫里斯就別想上場了。」

不，波波又不是魔法師，他也知道他無法改變莫里斯這種容易上頭的球員。

所以與其在簽來之後不讓他上場，波波維奇直接就拒絕簽下那些不聽教練指揮的球員。

[–]SpursNeutral_Meat 46 指標 15小時前

But he would sign a guy that fights with the fans on the sideline

是啊，於是他簽了個跟球迷對著「干」的。[譯註2]

[譯註2]指斯蒂芬-傑克遜，他在步行者時期參與了著名的「奧本山宮殿」事件，毆打球迷。

[–][SAS] Manu Ginobilimsc49 37 指標 14小時前

But he was on the Spurs before that. He had some clutch plays and I think Pop felt he could control him. Unfortunately, he thought he was better than Kawhi and that didn"t work with the team.

可是，傑克遜在去步行者之前可是為馬刺效力過啊，他也打出過高光時刻，波波可能是覺得他能hold得住武聖吧。但是後來傑克遜第二次加盟馬刺的時候，他覺得自己比卡哇伊強，這可就不ok了。

[–]SpursApplecakesMcGee 73 指標 16小時前

Talent level is good though. If you watch actual games and don"t go by 2k ratings, that is. Patty Mills was getting offers to be a starter. Danny Green is an amazing defender and, while he apparently can"t recover his finals 3pt shooting, he"s a decent shooter. Plus he"s the most mentally strong man on earth. Seriously watch how Pop yells at him. I seriously think Pop just goes and yells at Danny in his house sometimes. Pau is old but still good. Becoming a legit 3 or shooter too. LMA is good but god dammit he pisses me off. Kawhi. Davis Bertans and Bryn Forbes are two legit prospects. DJ Murray too. It"s a talented squad.

馬刺球迷：可是，我刺球員的天賦並不低啊。如果你真的看球，而不是只會看2K評分話，就更會意識到這點。有球隊追求米爾斯並許以先發位置，丹尼格林也是頂級防守者，雖然他回不去那年總決賽的格林了[譯註3]，但也是個不錯的三分手，他還有著極強的精神意志，看看波波咋吼他的吧。我都懷疑賽後波波沒事也會去他們家大喊大叫。大加索爾雖然上了點歲數但狀態依然出色，現在又成功轉型合格的三分射手。阿德很棒，但是吧，就是我tm看他球能氣死。倫納德就不用我多說了吧。貝爾坦斯和福布斯值得期待，德章泰-默里也是。這支隊伍還是很有天賦的。

[譯註3]指14年總決賽對陣熱火時狀態絕佳的丹尼格林。

[–]CelticsIfuckinglovebball 25 指標 16小時前

I"m not saying they aren"t (otherwise they wouldn"t be so successful), but they consistently really outperform their on-paper talent level

我不是說沒天賦，不然也不會這麼成功。但是要論賬面天賦，他們確實是在「超水平發揮」。

[–]Spurslazytech 6 指標 14小時前

Forbes is a D

Lauvergne is a D.

Parker could be depending how he comes back from injury

福布斯和洛文吉也就是個D級的水平。帕克要是傷病恢復的不好，可能也會淪為D級球員。

[–]SpursApplecakesMcGee 10 指標 14小時前

No Way Forbes is a D. Killed it in D league last year, murdered summer league, best shooting coach ever calls him the best shooter he"s seen. If motherfucker plays 8 minutes a game and goes 1/2 for 3 without a defensive mistake he"s a C.

福布斯可不止D啊。上賽季的發展聯盟和今年的夏聯都大殺四方。頂級投籃教練甚至稱他是「所見過的最好的純投手」。只要能每場打8min，貢獻50％的三分命中，防守端不犯錯，他絕對是個C級的球員。

[–]Lakers Bandwagonvictor396 1 指標 11小時前

It all depends in how the coach "administers" his "resources". You could have a squad like the 2011 Mavs playing each one his role and looking better for it or trying to make stars play to their weaknesses instead of their fortes and getting tired by over playing.

這還是取決於教練怎麼「調動資源」。就像10-11賽季奪冠的小牛，球員各司其職，球星能夠發揮長處而不是揚己之短，也不讓他們過度疲勞。

[–]Cavaliersvoyaging 2 指標 14小時前

Patty Mills and Danny Green are the two best examples of how underrated some of their talent is. Both are high caliber starters on most teams. And yeah Pau is still great

帕蒂-米爾斯和丹尼-格林是兩個典型的天賦被低估球員。他們夠格成為大多數球隊的高水準先發。而且嘛，大加索爾依然出色。

[–][LAL] Vlade Divacweeyummy1 2 指標 13小時前

Dude what? No, they"re just average starters on most teams or high caliber bench guys. Just as they are on the Spurs

哥們你逗呢？他們也就是平均水準的先發，或者是高水準的替補罷了。在馬刺也是這樣。

[–][SAS] Andrew Gazetimrs 3 指標 11小時前

Danny is better than almost any SG if you dont need scoring from that position. 2nd team all defence last year and can shoot the three!

I think if you were to rate all the point guards patty would be 20-25, which is pretty darn good for a bench guy

嘿，丹尼-格林比大多數得分後衛都棒啊，恩，只要不考慮這個位置的得分問題。上賽季的防守二陣，而且還附送關鍵三分！

如果要是全聯盟控衛排名的話，米爾斯差不多能排在20-25名的，這對於一個替補來說就已經是超級棒了。

[–]LakersXYZPokeLeagueRigged 3 指標 10小時前

because people dont value intelligence and chemistry that much. They all just wanted to lump 3 superstars on one team and expect it will work.

太多人不看重球商和化學反應了。他們以為只要有了三巨頭就能搞定一切。

[–]Nets BandwagonSwoah 3 指標 9小時前

Whenever I think about the West I want to put San Antonio behind Golden State, Houston, and OKC, but I just can』t do it.

All three of those teams have more talent than the Spurs but somehow the Spurs are going to end up with 60+ wins and wind up the two or three seed.

每次看著西部這些球隊，我都想把勇士、火箭和雷霆排在馬刺前邊，只是我做不到。

這三支球隊都有遠超馬刺的天賦，可是馬刺就是能夠最後拿下60+勝場，成為總冠軍競爭者中的二號或者三號種子。

[–]WarriorseBelieve 6 指標 16小時前

48 minutes of mistake free basketball because of their depth.

他們的板凳深度確保了他們能夠在48分鐘的比賽中不犯錯誤。

[–]NBAdrdownvotes12 5 指標 16小時前

Do you realize they had 5 former all stars last season along with Kawhi? They aren"t young and athletic big time scorers, but they"ve got veteran talent on that roster, and that goes a long way.

你有意識到他們隊伍里不算卡哇伊有5個曾經的全明星嗎？或許他們不再年輕，運動能力退化，不能再成為決勝時刻的得分手，但是他們賦予整個團隊以老兵的經驗和智慧，這些只會幫他們走的更遠。

[–][GSW] Kevin Durantshanetrey5 406 指標 18小時前

He right. Other guys need to build up chemistry. Spurs don"t have that disadvantage. They also have a Kawhi and a Pop.

勇士球迷：確實，別的隊還得想轍建立化學反應，馬刺不存在這個問題。更何況他們還有波波和倫納德。

[–][MIN] Tyus Jonespollinium 99 指標 18小時前

I feel like 82 games is a long time to build up that chemistry and the question was geared towards the post-season

I don"t see any of these teams missing the playoffs

我覺得用82場比賽建立化學反應是個很長的時間了，主要是化學反應這個問題應該是針對季後賽的啊。

我不認為馬刺、森林狼、火箭或者雷霆會缺席季後賽。

[–][HOU] James HardenGettingLostInDaSauce 97 指標 21小時前

As long as Pop is still there the Spurs are always gonna be in the playoffs

只要波波還在，馬刺就是季後賽常客。

[–]ThunderGamerghost44 57 指標 19小時前

You could roll out 15 of me on the roster and Pop could get a playoff berth.

波波能把15個我帶進季後賽。

[–][GSW] Klay ThompsonMurdathon3000 56 指標 17小時前

True, but a team whos core has remained mostly the same for years, including being tested and proven in the playoffs, is still going to be more cohesive and a better developed chemistry than one who has just completed their first season together and is now on the big stage of the postseason.

你說的也沒錯，但是對於一支在幾年裡保持穩定的核心球員架構的隊伍，而且還經歷了季後賽的洗禮，他們與那些剛剛合作了一個賽季且初登季後賽大舞台的團隊相比，會更加緊密，化學反應也會更好。

[–]TimberwolvesDirtysMan 11 指標 15小時前

Yeah, there"s regular season chemistry and playoff intensity and focus chemistry. When one of the best teams in the NBA spends a week practicing, watching video, and game planning specifically to beat you personally and your offense and defense it"s a different animal.

是的呢，化學反應也分常規賽的「一般性化學反應」和季後賽的「緊繃式化學反應」。一支花一星期時間來訓練，看錄像，制定戰術，想方設法在進攻防守兩隊打爆你的NBA頂級球隊，那可是一隻完全不一樣的猛獸啊。

[–]RocketsLowKeyE0915 68 指標 18小時前

I agree Spurs will spur... just for how long? This could be the year? I"ve been saying this forever lol

火箭球迷：我同意馬刺是常青樹……只是，這棵樹會青到什麼時候呢？今年可能就是馬刺枯萎的一年了？哈哈哈哈，這種話我已經說了一輩子了。

[–][SAS] Kawhi Leonardneburz 78 指標 17小時前

Until Pop retires or Kawhi has a systems malfunction

會的，波波退休或者倫納德出現系統故障的時候馬刺就會隕落的。

[–][GSW] Stephen Curryparanoideo 19 指標 15小時前

When Pop retires, Duncan comes back, right?

The circle of The Spurs.

波波退休了這不還有鄧肯接班呢嗎。

馬刺的循環。

[–]Warriorsmilkonyourmustache 44 指標 17小時前

They"re not a potent offense but they are efficient, and always great defensively. Kawhi has improved every single year and he"s my bet for league MVP. They won"t beat you with talent, they"ll just execute better than most teams in the league.

他們看起來進攻不是很強，但是極有效率，防守頂級，倫納德每年上一個台階，我甚至會賭他成為MVP。馬刺取勝靠的不是天賦，他們靠的是全聯盟最強的執行力。

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