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安東尼在雷霆打大前鋒能揚長避短?三巨頭戰術上可以互相彌補?


安東尼在雷霆打大前鋒能揚長避短?三巨頭戰術上可以互相彌補?



[Katz] Melo: "I have no problem with playing the 4. I actually like that, I actually embrace that. And for this team, I think it will be better." (twitter.com)


Katz: 甜瓜在推特上說:「打四號位沒問題啊,我還巴不得打四號位呢。其實我早就有這個覺悟了,這支雷霆要是讓我來打四號肯定行。」 






[–]ColdWorldGotHotter 1694 points 16 hours ago

Knicks: bitch what


尼克斯球迷:小賤人,你再說一遍?!


[–]Knicksunderhunter 930 points 13 hours ago


Ahem, lemme translate: "I"ll play the 4 now that my GM isn"t mercilessly talking shit, and my team isn"t a bucket of retarded lemons competing for a top 3 pick."


尼克斯球迷:咳咳,讓我翻譯一下甜瓜這句話:「事到如今我的總經理不再是個啥也不管只顧著打嘴炮的老頭了,我的球隊里再也沒有一群只知道擺爛搶樂透的智障了,四號位甜瓜已上線。」

[–]KnicksyouredoingWELL 41 points 9 hours ago


TBF Phil never wanted Melo to play the 4. D"antoni was the one who thought Melo could be a great 4 next to Tyson. After Melo refused and Pringles was fired, Woodson was forced to play Melo at the 4 after a Stoudemire injury. Thats how our 55+ win season+playoff run happened. Then Melo insisted on returning to his favored position and the Knicks returned to irrelevance.


尼克斯球迷:平心而論,禪師就沒有想過要讓甜瓜打四號位。是德安東尼覺得甜瓜能在泰森錢德勒旁邊成為一個出色的大前。後來甜瓜拒絕了,再後來「品客」被炒了(德安東尼長得像品客薯片上的卡通老爺爺),麥克-伍德森又不得不在小斯受傷了之後讓甜瓜打四號位。在那個甜瓜勉打四號位的賽季,我們取得了55+勝場,還在季後賽里搞了搞事情。在那之後甜瓜執意要打回他的小前,說那樣舒服,我們就再一次變成了鹹魚。


[–]76ersdnzgn 3 points 8 hours ago


They were a pretty old team during that playoff run though.

那個季後賽的尼克斯也是老的不行。


[–]MibuWolve 79 points 14 hours ago


Uhh.. what』s the issue? If Melo played the 4, KP would have to be moved to the 5 and the last time I checked, he doesn』t want to.


啥子情況啊?如果甜瓜繼續打大前,波神就要打中鋒了,上一次讓他打中鋒時臉色真的難看。


[–]LakersrNBAsMostFamousUser 91 points 14 hours ago

Also, he played plenty of 4 in his early Knick days when they actually had shit to play for. He stopped putting his body in harms way when it was clear the team couldn"t contend for even HCA in round 1, much less a CF appearance


再有,早期的紐約甜瓜沒少打四號位,那時候的尼克斯還是有點戰鬥力的。但是到了尼克斯別說打東決,連進季後賽第一輪都爭取不到主場優勢的時候,甜瓜就不再繼續肉搏,去打快樂籃球了。


[–]Warriorsjonirabbit 48 points 14 hours ago


That and they also had Noah at the 5 anyway. Eventually he will have to play. I think they have Hernangomez who I"ve read is pretty good and will probably play that now too. So KP has to stay at 4, and I think both he and the Knicks prefer him there anyway.


Melo at the 4 especially next to Adams at the 5 is very good defensively. Melo has trouble with faster 3s, but 4s are usually slower and he should be fine defending. Also of course that puts PG13 at the 3, and he is stellar defensively, especially being able to lock in on that with Russ-Melo-PG13 taking the offensive load.

I think people are crazy to think they won"t be a great defensive team. They have 3 great defenders. You can hide 2 lesser defenders easily with 3 great defenders, especially since they have perimeter, rim protection and mid-range speed covered between those 3.


那時候尼克斯也是只有諾阿打中鋒,甜瓜最終還是要打大前。不過我那時覺得埃爾南戈麥斯挺有潛力,八成以後是尼克斯首發中鋒。所以波神還是會打大前,這樣尼克斯和波神也都開心。


尤其是當甜瓜在亞當斯身邊打大前的時候對防守端是極好的。甜瓜防不住那些速度快的小前,大前動作一般都遲緩些,甜瓜防他們應該沒啥問題。還有泡椒當然會打小前,尤其是在三巨頭都在場一起分擔進攻端的壓力時,泡椒會是一道防守大閘。


那些認為這支雷霆防守不行的人腦子怕是進了水。他們有三個出色的防守者。三個好的防守球員可以幫另外兩個防守不太行的填坑,尤其是他們仨能同時防外線,保護籃筐和中距離迅速補防。



[–]the_future_of_pace 42 points 13 hours ago


And one of their bad defenders - Westbrook - is ideal for the roaming role off-ball. Physically he has all the tools. Creates havoc out there!


他們其中一個不擅長防守的,威少,是去補防的理想人選。他具備必要的身體條件,去毀天滅地!


[–]theohaiguy 27 points 13 hours ago


not to mention that russ has all the tools to be an effective defender (i believe he was a college DPOY). and melo is solid post defender so that should help too, hes just poor on the perimeter


威少有一切成為高效防守者的身體素質(我記得他是大學聯賽的最佳防守球員),甜瓜也是個合格的內線防守者,能幫上不少忙。甜瓜就是防外線防的太丑。


[–]67030410 24 points 13 hours ago


l dont know why people are downvoting you westbrook was seen as a very capable defender with the assets to be a very capable scorer. l am like 95% sure westbrook could be a top 5 defensive point guard if he didnt have to average 30ppg


這些人幹嘛滅你燈啊,曾經在大家眼裡威少是可以成為出色防守者,同時又擁得分天賦的球員。我敢說如果他不需要每晚砍30分,威少有機會成為聯盟防守前五強的後衛。 


[–]drawsony 298 points 16 hours ago


Yes. This is great to hear. He plays well at the Olympics, where he spends a lot of time at the 4. He"s more suited to that then being the 3 nowadays. I think PG13 and Roberson will be solid wing defenders. Offensively, he won"t have to be too different. He already spots up a lot off-ball, stretching the floor.


你說的很好。我聽了很開心。甜瓜在奧運會的時候可是打了很多四號位。相比打小前,如今他更適合大前。我認為泡椒和羅伯特森將會成為兩個出色的側翼防守者。在進攻端甜瓜不需要做什麼改變,他能找到許多空位,拉開球場空間。


[–]prettyinpinkpanther1 153 points 23 hours ago


PG-Roberson is more than solid wing defense. Like top 2 wing defense behind Leonard-Green.


萊納德和丹尼-格林之外,泡椒加羅伯特森幾乎是最強側翼防守組合了。


[–]Charlotte HornetsBIGJ0N 70 points 23 hours ago


KD-Klay is definitely up there


KD加克萊也很強的。


[–]WarriorsMacDerfus 38 points 22 hours ago


Eh, they"re overrated IMO.


拉倒吧,我覺得他們被高估了。 


[–]Bucksbajida 14 points 20 hours ago


Do you think both of them are? I"m surprised by the amount of love KD"s defense suddenly gets after this last playoff run, but I thought Klay was still considered great on D.


你覺得他們兩個人分別都被高估了嗎? 讓我驚訝的是經過了上個季後賽,大家突然就開始跪舔KD的防守了。但是我認為克萊的防守還是穩的。


[–][CLE] Mark PriceWitOfTheIrish 7 points 16 hours ago


KD has really come into his own defensively as a small-ball 4/5. He had impressive rim protection, (block % jumped 50% to a new career high), and better rebounding than ever before in his career (career high TRB%), but I don"t think he"s near elite as a wing defender.


His length bothers people, but he doesn"t have the same quickness and discipline to stay in front of guys like Kawhi, Klay, PG, or even Draymond. And it"s not really what he"s asked to do in the Warriors defensive scheme, where"s he"s much more of the weak side help defender.


KD打小球的中鋒或大前時防守是進入狀態了。他的護筐能力令人吃驚(蓋帽率提升了50%,職業生涯新高),同時他的籃板能力也達到了他前所未有的水平(總籃板率職業生涯新高),但我認為他對於精英側翼防守者還有些差距。身高臂長的KD讓人腦殼痛,但是相較備萊納德,克萊,泡椒或是格林他們面對面的防守,KD沒有這些人靈活,防守積極性也比不上。不過KD的職責並不是干格林或者克萊要乾的事,他更多的時候要去補防弱側。



[–]LakersWes___Mantooth 257 points 16 hours ago


Oh shit this team might actually work.


卧槽這支雷霆沒準能行。


[–][SEA] Rashard LewisxRyuzakii[S] 187 points 15 hours ago


Small ball lineup of Russ/Roberson/PG/Carmelo/2Pat is gonna be scarrrrrryyy


濕了!威少+羅伯特森+泡椒+甜瓜+帕特森的小球陣容!


[–]Spurskorny4u 138 points 15 hours ago


Especially if Roberson can improve his shooting even a little bit. Like just shoot 33% from 3 and 55% from FT and that lineup will be $$$.


尤其是羅伯特森要是能在投籃上再下點功夫。他能有33%的三分和55%的罰球,這個陣容就值錢了。 


[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookEggYinz 80 points 15 hours ago


Seriously if Roberson gets to the point where they can"t just completely ignore him Russ"s slash and kick game will be devastating.


說真的,要是到了防守者不敢放羅伯特森投的時候,威少的突分就更爆炸了。


[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookianthedebater 290 points 16 hours ago


Hot


甜瓜,四號位,燃啊。 


[–]Bucksdrawafade 94 points 14 hours ago


I think hes hinting that Wade can play the 2...


So...RW, Wade, George, Melo, Adams. That would definitely give GSW"s starting 5 a run for their money. Only issue is GSW"s bench is deep now.


我覺得甜瓜意思是韋德可以來打得分後衛。。。所以。。。威少+韋德+泡椒+甜瓜+亞當斯。花的這些錢買來這陣容,能和勇士一戰了。問題是勇士替補陣容現在太強了。


[–]Warriorsjonirabbit 29 points 12 hours ago


But Roberson is a defensive monster, and they have enough scoring with Westbrook-Melo-PG. Why would you want Wade in there instead of Roberson on the starting unit?


但是羅伯特森在防守端是一頭野獸,雷霆也有足夠的得分手了(威少甜瓜泡椒)。為啥你還想要韋德首發而不是羅伯特森呢?


[–]76ersthundercockjk2 91 points 16 hours ago


Damn, this is fucking exciting!!!


操,這個休賽期太刺激!


[–]Spurs_felagund 23 points 14 hours ago


somehow i dont want this offseason end!


我竟然不想讓這個休賽期結束了!


[–]WarriorsOw_wow 33 points 14 hours ago


Nahh, it"s time to see the Thunder putting the hurt on everyone. I can"t wait until they play.


別,快開打吧,等不及看雷霆到處虐人了。


[–]Supersonicsbiinroii01 105 points 16 hours ago


he may have a lil problem playing the 4 against AD or Blake Griffin or other big ass 4s、


甜瓜打大前的話,防格里芬,濃眉,或者其他大屁股四號位估計夠嗆啊。






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