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雷霆12月以來戰績僅次於勇士,化學反應正在變好,可惜少了羅伯森


雷霆12月以來戰績僅次於勇士,化學反應正在變好,可惜少了羅伯森 


Since Dec 1st the OKC Thunder have the second best record in the league at 22-8, behind only the Golden State Warriors


12月1日至今,雷霆打出了22勝8負的聯盟第二好戰績,僅次於金州勇士。[譯註1]


They are also only 1 game behind in the loss column from the 3rd seeded Spurs. It"s a shame they lost Roberson now when things have started clicking for them.


而且他們也只比西部第三的馬刺多輸了一場。但當一切都開始往好的方向發展的時候,他們失去了羅伯森,太遺憾了。


[譯註1]此統計沒有算今天的比賽。




[–]Raptorsdeisoswagger 1088 指標 15小時前


Not a surprise. It takes time to develop chemistry and the thunder are chemistrying together


很正常,產生化學反應是需要時間的。而雷霆現在的化學反應正如火如荼。


[–]Lakersstaycummin[??] 771 指標 14小時前


Chemistrying there is not, only chemis-doing.


化學反應不能用如火如荼形容,只能說已經有了化學反應。[譯註1]


[譯註1]文字遊戲,這位網友特意挑出來了chemistry名詞動用中的單詞「try」,所以讀出來就是chemis-trying,chemis-doing則是另外一個不著邊的自創說法。


[–]StyleSoFree 15 指標 13小時前


「You see, technically, chemistry is the study of matter, but I prefer to see it as the study of change: It is growth, then decay, then transformation.」 - Walter White


「你看,從學術層面上說,化學是一門研究物質的學科,但我更覺得它是一門研究變化的學科:增長、衰退、轉變。」——沃爾特-懷特(《絕命毒師》主角)


[–]ThunderWes___Mantooth 86 指標 10小時前


Remember when we should have blown it up and traded PG after game 15?


雷霆球迷:還記得15場比賽過後我雷表現低迷,論壇都喊著要推倒重建、交易喬治嗎?


[–]Thundersidinridin 56 指標 10小時前


"Fire Donovan" after 15 games was so laughable


雷霆球迷:15場比賽過後,到處都是「炒掉多諾萬」。想想真可笑。


[–]Thunderbreakshot 17 指標 8小時前


Maybe, but I think when the Thunder was 8-12 and there was a clear lack of direction, the criticism leveled at Donovan was fair. Things have clicked in a great way, but you can only problem solve with what you have in front of you, and honestly, Donovan didn"t have control in the initial portion of the season. The fact that a coaching change was brought up, to me, was fair.


雷霆球迷:也許吧,當時我雷8勝12負,而且球隊明顯沒有明確的方向,那時對多諾萬的批評是合理的。事態朝著好的方向發展了,但你只能藉助你所擁有的資源解決問題。而且實話實說,多諾萬並沒有掌控賽季初期的那些問題。當時喊著換教練這件事,我覺得挺合理的。


[–]Thundersidinridin 13 指標 8小時前


I kind of disagree. I think getting players (especially perennial all stars) to buy into a system is tough, that』s why we were so bad early on. These things take time, and while the criticism of Donovan is warranted, I don』t think it was so bad to put his job into question.


雷霆球迷:我不太同意。我覺得讓球員們(尤其還是全明星常客)融入同一個體系很困難的,這就是我們賽季初期表現糟糕的原因。這件事是需要時間的。雖然當時多諾萬活該被批評,但我覺得他那時候的表現並沒差到帥位不保的地步。


I mean let』s say we did get rid of him, that』s pretty short sighted thinking wouldn』t you agree? Even if Fizdale (or some other coach) came in, he would still have a ~20 game adjustment period at the very least. People would probably start demanding his firing too


我的意思是,如果我們炒了多諾萬,你不覺得我雷也太目光短淺了吧?就算我們簽了菲茲戴爾(或者其他教練),他也需要至少20場比賽的調整時間,那時人們大概又想把他也炒掉了。


[–]KayFeldersAlt 17 指標 15小時前


It"s crazy how the narratives ebb and flow in this league. That"s what happens when you have a long season, with a ton of huge personalities that are constantly affecting the game for 48 minutes.


NBA的輿論翻轉真是日新月異。一個漫長的賽季中總會出現這種現象,而且球員自身的個性也無時無刻對這48分鐘的比賽產生著影響。


[–][PHI] Joel Embiid76ersDynasty 446 指標 15小時前


Unfortunately Roberson and the defense was a big part of this.

但很倒霉催的是,羅伯森和他的防守是雷霆取得這22勝8負的重要因素。


[–]SpursThehelloman0 173 指標 13小時前


It"s funny how quickly the narrative flipped on Roberson. I remember when OKC was playing badly, a lot of thunder fans saying he was bad.


羅伯森身上的輿論導向變得太快了。我記得雷霆打得差的那會兒,許多雷霆球迷都恨他不爭氣。


[–]LeFlop_ 173 指標 11小時前

More like r/nba said not OKC fans.


可不是雷霆球迷哦,整個論壇都是這個論調。


[–]ThunderL0rv- 104 指標 11小時前


No, trust me, there are a lot of OKC fans who hate Roberson. I think they only watch one end of the court.


雷霆球迷:不,相信我,有很多雷霆球迷討厭羅伯森。我覺得他們看比賽可能只看進攻表現吧。


[–]Thundersidinridin 56 指標 10小時前


If you were on the Thunder subreddit, people were legit asking for him to be replaced with Abrines in the starting lineup at the beginning of the year.


Same people are now slamming Abrines for his defense, and praising Roberson. Our fans piss me off sometimes


雷霆球迷:你該來看看雷霆專區,賽季初期人們都一本正經地想讓阿夫里內斯取代羅伯森首發。而這同一批人現在又都開始噴阿夫里內斯防守差,狂吹羅伯森。我雷球迷有時候真的讓我氣不打一處來。



[–]Thunderpig_says_woo 89 指標 15小時前


yea. as great as we are looking now and will be come the end of the season, its all a bit for nothing. Without robes, we cant beat golden state or maybe even houston


really hope we just show enough to keep pg around


雷霆球迷:雖然我雷現在看起來很強大,到賽季末也可能狀態火熱,但是,全都是竹籃打水一場空啊。沒有羅伯森我們是打不過勇士的,可能也打不過火箭。只希望我們的表現能留住喬治吧。


[–]MagicByrie_Swirving 53 指標 14小時前


Avery Bradley incoming. Not as good a defender but can actually play offense.


埃弗里-布拉德利要來啦。雖然防守沒蘿蔔那麼強,但布拉德利是真的有進攻的。


[–][OKC] Kyle SinglerA_Lax_Nerd 40 指標 14小時前


Bradley used to be an amazing defender. Has he regressed that much this year?


雷霆球迷:布拉德利以前是個出色的防守者啊,他今年退步了很多嗎?


[–]MagicByrie_Swirving 22 指標 14小時前


I don』t know, haven』t followed the pistons very closely at all. It』s just that Roberson is dpoy caliber, so even last year Bradley would be atleast a small downgrade.


不知道,我沒怎麼看這賽季活塞的球。只是羅伯森是DPOY級別的,所以就算是上賽季的布拉德利,相較於羅伯森也差點意思。


[–]SpecialKangaroo 84 指標 13小時前


I already miss robes so much. Our defense was the biggest reason I had any confidence in us for the playoffs. I still think we can make a run but beating the heavy hitters is gonna be rough without him.


雷霆球迷:我已經開始想念羅伯森了。我對我雷今年季後賽最大的信心就來自我們的防守。我還是覺得我們今年能搞事情,但要是啃下那些硬骨頭的話,沒有羅伯森可是太難了。



[–]Lakers12D3 220 指標 15小時前


How has their strength of schedule been prior to Dec and after? (Legit asking)


雷霆十二月之前和之後賽程的難度都是什麼水平(真心提問)?


[–]Warriorsuntouchable765 198 指標 15小時前


Don"t know for sure but can tell you they have the 4th hardest schedule remaining. Warriors have the 3rd easiest remaining.


勇士球迷:不太確定,但可以告訴你的是,他們接下來有著第四艱難的賽程,而我勇接下來的賽程是第三輕鬆的。


[–]Lakers12D3 102 指標 14小時前


Looking at a glance, it looks like they"ve had a balanced slate mostly. They"ve played a lot of bad teams but also beaten the very top teams as well, so the winning likely isn"t due to their schedule which can be the case sometimes. I was just curious.


層主:我看了一眼,看起來他們的賽程挺均衡的。雷霆打了許多支弱隊,但也擊敗了聯盟頂尖的強隊,所以說,他們的成功並不是因為賽程簡單。我問這個問題也只是出於好奇。


[–]Thunderthetrain23 64 指標 12小時前


We play better against the good teams anyway. Like to a crazy degree. The way things have been going, I"d be more scared of a random home game against the Hawks than a primetime showdown in Oracle.


雷霆球迷:反正我們打強隊一直打得很好,好得離奇。就我雷這賽季的尿性,相比於黃金檔在甲骨文球館大戰勇士,我更害怕哪天我們在主場打老鷹這樣的球隊時陰溝翻船。


[–]TimberwolvesNotoriousTowns 29 指標 11小時前


I"m glad we played them early in the Season when Russ was struggling. I think he was the reason why they started slow and the reason why they are so good now.


He had to be the clear leader of this team and he has really stepped up. I honestly think the Russ from the past few weeks is better than last year"s Russ.


森林狼球迷:很慶幸我們是在賽季初期威少表現掙扎時和雷霆交手的。我覺得威少就是雷霆賽季初期表現糟糕的原因,但他同樣也是雷霆現在如此出色的原因。


他必須成為球隊明確的領袖,而且他也確實站出來了。真心覺得過去幾周的威少比上賽季的MVP威少還要強。


[–][OKC] Paul Georgebmrsnr 23 指標 9小時前


Russ in the last month is playing the best ball of his career


雷霆球迷:威少上個月打出了生涯最佳表現。



[–]Cavaliersmynamesyow19 44 指標 12小時前


Ah I remember back when OKC beat down GS earlier in the season and everyone was saying that it was just fluke and that OKC would be so bad that they would end up trading away PG...wild times man, wild times.


騎士球迷:我還記得雷霆賽季初期擊敗勇士的時候,人們都說他們就是吃了頓餃子,還說他們仍然會很爛,最終爛到把喬治交易掉。往事不堪回首啊。


[–][NYK] Pablo Prigionibiinroii01 9 指標 15小時前


yea the beginning of the season was as scary for them as it looks for the cavs now haha


是啊,賽季初期雷霆的待遇恰如現在的騎士,哈哈哈!


[–]ThunderWes___Mantooth 9 指標 10小時前


I never panicked because I remember the Heat in 2011. They had a rocky start.


雷霆球迷:我從來沒慌過,因為我還記得2011年的熱火,他們的開端也很艱難。


[–]Bullstvdl06 14 指標 13小時前


So far, they"ve been playing pretty good. As expected, it takes a while for new teammates to gel together. They are doing just that and seems to be making a run towards being the team to beat. GSW still number 1


目前為止雷霆已經打得很好了。正如預期的那樣,隊友間相互磨合需要時間,他們也正是這麼做的。雷霆正在進步,努力成為人人都想擊敗的球隊。雖然最強的還是勇士。






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