騎士不願放棄籃網簽還想宰快船，騎士球迷竟要罷看騎士比賽
騎士不願放棄籃網簽還想宰快船；克利夫蘭球迷竟要罷看騎士比賽
記者Sam Amick：騎士只願意提供自己的首輪簽和一些沒人要的合同來交換德安德魯-喬丹（這是不可能的）；另外，如果騎士隊在交易截止日之前沒有做出任何操作，其餘競爭對手們也不會感到驚訝。
[Amick] Cavs have offered only their first round pick & unwanted money for DeAndre Jordan (not happening); also rivals won"t be surprised if it"s a quiet deadline for Cleveland
[–][ORL] Jonathan IsaacRayshard 833 指 6小時前
DJ is worth way more than a 24th pick
小喬丹可比第24順位選秀權值錢多了啊！
[–]RaptorsMasai-Ujiri 345 指標 6小時前
but also not worth a top 10 pick
但是還是比不上前10順位的選秀權呀。
[–][OKC] Domantas SabonisIncaseAce 277 指標 6小時前
He would be if it wasn』t for half a year
如果不是只能使用他半年的話，小喬丹還是比前10順位簽要值錢的。
[–]RaptorsMasai-Ujiri 63 指標 6小時前
Still don"t think so considering what PG, Cousins and Butler went for and seeing how DJ is much worse than em.
我仍然不這樣認為，特別是考慮到保羅-喬治，考辛斯，巴特勒這種級別的球員交易來的資產，而很顯然小喬丹是要比他們低一檔次的。
[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliScreamingSpursLady 65 指標 6小時前
PG was for a season with less chance of keeping him
Cousins was a locker room cancer (that was the narrative at the time) on a team going nowhere and their owners infatuation with Hield means it"s impossible to compare other trades with that
Lavine, a mid first and Dunn is a hell of a lot more than one late top 10 pick, and again the situations are so different comparing them is pretty silly
And the Cavs are dumping some dreadful salaries on the Clippers too, that has to be worth something
保羅-喬治的使用權只有一年，想續約他的概率非常低。
考辛斯當時則被認為是一支看不到未來的球隊里的更衣室毒瘤（當時都是這樣說的），球隊老闆還痴迷於巴蒂-希爾德，這意味著你幾乎無法用這樁交易和其他的交易相對比。
扎克-拉文，加上首輪中段選秀權和克里斯-鄧恩可是要比前10順位末尾的選秀權值錢多了。而且還是要說，這兩者情況很不同，所以拿騎士跟快船的交易可能性來做比較是沒有意義的。
現在騎士還想把自己的垃圾合同扔到快船去，所以這樣的話快船多要點籌碼也是很合情合理的啊。
[–]Netsaydee123 48 指標 6小時前
He turns 30 in July and is at best the 3rd guy on a contender. I mean he was the 3rd guy on the Clippers and they didn"t even get to the conference finals.
小喬丹到了7月份就要30歲了，而且在爭冠球隊里，小喬丹充其量只能扮演老三的角色。你想想吧，（保羅格里芬還在的時候）他是快船隊里實力排在第三的球員，然而快船連西決地板都沒有摸到過。
[–]Westyesungxiao 162 指標 6小時前*
That"s some CRAZY twisted logic. DJ is a defensive powerhouse and great at finishing lobs/inside... i thought that this was pretty obvious by now, that he"s one of the best defenders in this league and adds a lot with screens and finishing plays, transition,etc ...
這真是有些瘋狂的邏輯在裡邊啊。小喬丹是防守端的發動機，同時也是非常出色的空接者/內線得分者…我認為現在這一點大家都應該知道了，他是聯盟頂級的防守者之一，而且他還有不錯的擋拆能力，能完成進攻，打轉換也是一把好手，等等…
He doesnt even make into this "1st/2nd/3rd guy" conversation because that"s not what he does and brings to his team, he (oany center) could be the 5th option in a team and still be an all-star/all-nba player.
在討論每支隊實力最強的第一人/第二人/第三人的時候人們甚至不會提及他，因為那並不是他擅長帶給球隊的。他作為中鋒在球隊里可能只是第五選擇，然而他還是可以成為最佳陣容/全明星級別的球員。
Or you really think Gobert and Adams wouldn"t even make it into the bench if Cavs traded for them? Because that"s exactly what you meant with that comment...
Basketball is a lot more than just having the players that score the most.
你覺得戈貝爾和亞當斯這樣的球員到了騎士之後只能打替補嗎？因為，樓上的老哥，你的邏輯就是這樣的（老X老Y理論）。
籃球很複雜，不僅是有得分最多的球員就可以了。
[–]NirkDowinski 393 指標 6小時前
The Cavs have entered the session
The Clippers have left the session
系統消息：騎士隊加入了該會議。
系統消息：快船隊離開了該會議。
[–][GSW] Nick YoungCarstar360 72 指標 5小時前
Clippers are like your first season of MyGM. Trade all your players for picks and sim the season.
快船隊感覺就像是2K「我的經理模式」模式的第一個賽季。交易走所有的球員換取選秀權，然後模擬整個賽季。
[–]LakersFirstOne617 13 指標 3小時前
Only now it takes an hour and a half cause this stupid fucking owner drama bullshit keeps popping up like every two days.
只不過現在要花上一個半小時才能模擬完整個賽季了，因為2K里的那個傻X球隊老闆差不多每兩天就要鬧出點幺蛾子。
[–]Wizardschampagnewayne 14 指標 2小時前
Just play myleague man, you can skip all that and having 70-rated players complaining about being on the bench
還是去玩「我的聯盟模式」吧兄弟，這樣你就能跳過那些無聊的劇情，然後看著能力值70左右的球員們抱怨自己扮演球隊替補的角色。
[–]LakersFirstOne617 28 指標 2小時前
Like Christ dude I signed Kevin fucking Durant in free agency your 78 rated ass is not starting
真的。老子剛剛從自由球員市場上籤下了凱文-杜蘭特，你個能力值只有78的傢伙當然不會得到先發位置了，叫個屁叫。
[–][CLE] Wally Szczerbiakwineman3 463 指標 6小時前*
The cavs are so depressing.
騎士球迷：騎士現在讓我抑鬱。
[–]Raptorsraptorsbucketnator 179 指標 6小時前
Offer more than a late 20s pick and shitty contracts if you want one of the best centres in the league.
如果你想得到聯盟里最佳的中鋒之一，末段首輪簽和一些身背垃圾合同的球員做籌碼是絕對不夠的。
[–][CLE] Wally Szczerbiakwineman3 142 指標 6小時前
Oh I completely agree man lol
騎士球迷：哦！我完全同意啊哈哈哈！
[–][NJN] Vince CarterHevyWeather 28 指標 6小時前
What else they got. DJ is not worth the Nets pick and is not gonna happen for Love and something.
騎士還有什麼可以用的資產么？小喬丹不值得用籃網簽去交易，但是又不可能用樂福作為籌碼。
[–][CLE] Wally Szczerbiakwineman3 26 指標 6小時前
DJ + Lou
騎士球迷：小喬丹和蘆葦，我全都要。
[–]Raptorsraptorsbucketnator 32 指標 6小時前
DJ+Lou
FOR
BKN-Cavs pick, TT+Crowder
小喬丹+蘆葦換來籃網和騎士的選秀權+湯普森+克勞德。
[–]Kingsseanothegreat 34 指標 5小時前
My understanding is they can"t trade both picks because of the Stepien Rule.
我認為騎士不能夠交易他們的選秀權，因為施特平規則[譯註1]的限制。
[譯註1]Stepien Rule，規定球隊禁止做出任何可能讓他們在未來連續兩年沒有首輪選秀權的交易。
[–]CavaliersIM_JUST_THE_INTERN 24 指標 5小時前
That is correct. The only way we can trade both 1s is if we get one back.
騎士球迷：樓上正解。理論上我們送走兩個首輪簽也不是不可以，前提是跟我們做交易的球隊也會付出自己的首輪。
[–][CLE] Kevin LoveLeKing_James 177 指標 6小時前
Have you tried TT, Shump and Nets pick Koby?
騎士球迷：總經理科比，你有沒有試過用湯普森，香波特和籃網簽作為籌碼？
[–]CavaliersHarden2k18MVP 40 指標 5小時前
Cavs aren"t trading the Nets pick for half a season of DJ.
騎士球迷：騎士隊可不會為了小喬丹半個賽季的使用權而動用籃網簽。
[–][GSW] Stephen Currymerqurycitymeltdown 24 指標 5小時前
Given Gilbert』s comments on LeBron leaving after this year, I doubt they』re trading it at all
考慮到球隊老闆吉爾伯特對於勒布朗離開的一些評論，我覺得騎士很有可能不會動籃網簽。
[–]Heatlookallama 4 指標 3小時前
If Lebron is gone (and thats a big if), isnt the 8th pick worth getting rid of all your awful contracts and ramping up for one more go at it?
如果勒布朗要離開（注意【如果】，這是關鍵詞，誰也說不準），難道一個第8順位的選秀權還不值得你們處理到垃圾合同並且為總冠軍做最後一搏？
[–]CavaliersTooManyCookz 16 指標 3小時前
It"s absolutely worth it. Problem is, our fans are suffering from hostage syndrome as a result of Dan Gilbert.
He"s lording this fucking Nets pick like it"s our savior and now fans are starting to parrot it as if it"s true.
Nets pick makes no difference whatsoever if LeBron leaves.
So trade it in an attempt to satisfy him and keep him.
By not doing so, Gilbert is pushing him out the door.
And if he does, I for one, will boycott Cavs for at least a few years.
騎士球迷：這絕對是值得的，但是問題是，有個丹-吉爾伯特這樣的老闆，我們球迷都快有斯德哥爾摩綜合征了。
他把籃網簽當做個寶貝一樣，就好像這是我們的救世主一般，所以球迷們也開始接受這樣的設定。
如果勒布朗離開的話，有沒有這個籃網簽是沒什麼區別的。
所以交易這個籃網簽，讓勒布朗滿意，然後留下勒布朗。
如果不這樣做的話，吉爾伯特就是再把勒布朗往門外趕。
如果吉爾伯特真的這樣做，就我個人而言，在最起碼幾年內我是不會看騎士的球了。
[–]Raptorsraptorsbucketnator 106 指標 6小時前
Celtic and Raptor fans right now
猛龍球迷：凱爾特人和猛龍球迷的表情如下圖：
[–][CLE] J.R. Smithproblynotkevinbacon 54 指標 6小時前
If shit goes south after this season, I"m going to go all in on the Raptors. Fuck it, I might just move to Toronto. Really jump on the bandwagon
騎士球迷：如果這個賽季之後我們真的解體了。那我就全身心的去支持猛龍了。日，我可能還不如直接搬去多倫多，跳槽就跳的徹底些。
[–][CLE] World B. Freemarrone12 24 指標 6小時前
I"ve decided to jump on the Bucks bandwagon. If I can"t root for LeBron in cleveland I might as well root for LeBron 2.0
騎士球迷：我已經決定跳槽到雄鹿陣營了。如果我不能在克利夫蘭支持勒布朗，那我何嘗不去支持勒布朗的2.0版本！
[–]Raptorsfabrar 12 指標 5小時前
Come through fam. Best city in the world, we got the best food, people from every country in the world, natural beauty all around and probably the lowest crime of a city this size.
Only downside is that Drake is our ambassador, but hey, gotta compromise on some things
猛龍球迷：快來吧兄弟。多倫多是世界上最棒的城市，我們有最美味的食物，世界各地的人們匯聚於此，處處是美景，而且作為大都市可能有著最低的犯罪率。
唯一不好的地方就是Drake是我們的環球形象大使，但是啊 ，有得必有失嘛。
[–]A_Confused_Moose 6 指標 4小時前
For a city this size, the transit system sucks so much ass. Crime is low for a city this size its true. If you like hockey now would be the time to jump on the leafs bandwagon as well.
The food is alright I wouldn』t call it the best in the world however, people from every country is both a blessing and a curse.
Housing prices will make you say no to moving here anyways so it』s all a moot point.
對於如此大型的城市，多倫多的交通系統真是爛到姥姥家去了。犯罪率的確是相當低。如果你喜歡冰球的話可以一同來支持多倫多楓葉隊。
食物還湊合，我不會說這裡有世界最好吃的美食；來自世界各地的人們匯聚於此？是福也是禍吧。
這裡的房價會打消你搬來多倫多的想法，想搬家？不存在的。
[–]Raptorsfabrar 5 指標 3小時前
Yeah, agreed, transit is absolute trash. It"s fine downtown but anywhere else it sucks.
As for housing prices, it"s unfortunate, yeah, but housing is expensive in any big city in the world. Just comes with being the financial/entertainment centre of the country.
猛龍球迷：是的我同意，這兒的交通簡直就是垃圾。城區里還成，除此之外都是一團糟。對於房價來說，很不幸，高的一批，但是世界上所有的大城市都是一樣。作為一個國家的經濟和娛樂中心，房價高算是不可避免的副作用了。
[–]Knickspatricko25 155 指標 6小時前
「Unwanted money」 why did they do shump like that
尼克斯球迷：「沒人要的合同」，他們為什麼這樣對待香波特！
[–]RaptorsKevinBarbie 23 指標 6小時前
Haha, man that"s cold
哈哈兄弟，真是冷酷無情啊。
[–]Knicksabippityboop 182 指標 6小時前
Good god that"s a terrible offer
我的天啊，這個報價還真是糟糕。
[–][OKC] Domantas SabonisIncaseAce 94 指標 6小時前
You miss all the shots you don』t take
不去嘗試的話，成功的幾率就是百分之零啊。
[–]Knicksabippityboop 68 指標 6小時前
Altman officially the guy in your fantasy league who offers 3 bums for Le"Veon Bell and writes you 3 paragraphs explaining why you"d be stupid not to take it.
看明白了，騎管阿爾特曼簡直就是范特西聯盟里能提出來用三個菜雞換你的勒維恩-貝爾[譯註2]的那個人，而且這種人還會寫三大段話解釋為什麼你應該接受這筆交易。
[譯註2]勒維恩-貝爾， 匹茲堡鋼人隊的跑衛。
[–]Raptorsjps78 42 指標 6小時前
fucking hate this dude in my league
我的范特西里就有這種傻X，真特么煩人。
[–]CelticsTroyAtWork 56 指標 6小時前
Cavs front office knows LeBron is leaving and they"re just waiting it out. I don"t know how it could be more obvious. They aren"t going to trade the Nets pick, they aren"t looking to load up for another run, they aren"t going to fire Lue. They"re just treading water until LeBron leaves so that they can start a true rebuild.
騎管知道詹姆斯要走了，現在就是混吃等死呢。這已經明顯的不能再明顯了。他們不會交易籃網簽，他們也不會尋找機會再次衝擊總冠軍，他們也不會炒掉盧教練。他們就是在混日子，等著勒布朗離開，然後開始真正的重建。
[–]Cavalierspericles123 37 指標 6小時前
They should still get rid of Lue - if they go full rebuild or "try to stay competitive", he"s not a good coach.
騎士球迷：他們真的應該炒掉盧教練，不管是想重建還是「試圖保持競爭力」，盧都不是一個稱職的教練。
[–]CelticsTroyAtWork 28 指標 6小時前
They"re still paying Mike Brown AND David Blatt. Don"t want to add a 4th coach to the payroll just yet.
他們還在支付麥克-布朗和大衛-布拉特的工資呢。他們可能還不希望支付第四位教練的工資。
[–][CLE] Kevin LoveDontrell 142 指標 6小時前
Cavs will never have this level of success in their franchise again. A Billy King deal would do wonders because Cavs draft like shit and aren"t retaining or attracting free agents with Gilbert as the owner.
騎士球迷：騎士隊再也不可能達到這種程度的成功了。來一筆比利-金式的交易好了，反正騎士隊的選秀水平非常捉急，而且有吉爾伯特作為老闆他們留不住也吸引不來自由球員。
[–]Heatheatkings1 81 指標 6小時前
You don"t want to Billy King your franchise. It has set the nets back years
你可不要想著讓自己的主隊做一筆比利-金式的交易啊。瞅瞅籃網大兄弟，一夜回到解放前好幾年了。
[–]RaptorsAprilsMostAmazing 12 指標 6小時前
if Lebron stays a billy king deal is good, if he Cavs gonna be fucked up
如果勒布朗留下來，那麼做一筆豪賭還是可以接受的，但是如果不留下來，那騎士可就玩兒完了。
[–]Cavaliersmoses_lawn 72 指標 6小時前
Can we be the first team to trade our owner
騎士球迷：我們能否成為第一支交易自己老闆的球隊？
[–]Knickssonfoa 22 指標 4小時前
Wait in line
尼克斯球迷：來來來，排在我身後。
[–][BOS] Isaiah Thomaspapi617 43 指標 6小時前
If I"m a team, I take a Cavs future first for one of their bad contracts.
凱爾特人球迷：換做是我，騎士讓我吃下他們的一個垃圾合同也不是不可以，但前提是騎士必須出自己的未來首輪簽。
[–]Raptorsdmoneybags 52 指標 6小時前
Ainge is that you
猛龍球迷：樓上是安吉小號？
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