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湖人將重心放在19年自由球員市場,是要頂薪簽拉塞爾嗎?


湖人將重心放在2019年自由球員市場,美JRs:是要頂薪簽回拉塞爾嗎?


Sources: Lakers shifting free agent focus to "19


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22343526/los-angeles-lakers-recalibrating-focus-2019-free-agent-class


消息稱湖人將重心放在2019年自由球員市場




[–]MercyWhoDosentHeal 1134 指標 10小時前


Key take aways:


1.     50/50 chance Randle or Clarksn get traded


2.     With boogies injury and PG liking OKC they are shitting focus to 2019


It seems like they want to continue growth and development until they know what they have


劃重點了:1,蘭德爾或者克拉克森各有一半可能性被交易。2,考辛斯受傷、保羅-喬治與雷霆化學反應良好,湖人將重心轉移到2019年自由球員市場上。看起來他們打算再釐清陣容前繼續發展、成長。


[–]yusbishyus 126 指標 10小時前


Think your 2nd point is absolutely true. PG and Boogie stay. LeBron not even looking at California.


我覺得你列出的第二點絕對真實,保羅-喬治和考辛斯不會走人的。詹姆斯也根本不會考慮加州。


[–][LAL] James WorthyThat_Weird_Kid 41 指標 7小時前


LeBron"s probably going to do another 1+1 and everyone is going to be like "The Lakers must"ve known he was planning on staying!!"


湖人球迷:詹姆斯可能會再簽一個1+1合同,所有人就會說:「湖人肯定早就知道他會留在球隊了!」


[–]UltimateWeiner 40 指標 6小時前


If LeBron is in Cleveland next year he』s an idiot


如果詹姆斯明年還在騎士,他就是個傻子。


[–]RocketsIskandermissile 40 指標 9小時前*


what makes you think PG is going to stay? He can"t outright say he doesn"t like where he is.


你為什麼覺得保羅-喬治會留下呢?他也不能就直接說他不喜歡所在的球隊吧?


[–]Raptorsbeerdude111 128 指標 8小時前


....except he did. Which is why he got traded in the first place.


但是…他干過這事兒啊。這也是他為什麼被交易了。


[–]Weaboo-Sensei 54 指標 7小時前


No, even then he was all like 「I will stay in Indiana if they can put a team around me」. He maintained his 「I really like it here, it』s not my fault」 facade until the end. He also spent years saying he wanted to stay in Indiana. Point is, I wouldn』t take anything he says about OKC seriously until he is putting pen to paper on that contract.


不是啊,那時候他說的是「如果他們能圍繞我組建一支球隊,那麼我會留下」。他把那個「我喜歡這兒,被交易不是我的錯」的面具帶到了最後,前幾年一直都在說他想待在步行者。我不會把他對雷霆說的任何好話當真,我只信他白紙黑字簽的合同。


[–]RocketsIskandermissile 33 指標 9小時前


With boogies injury and PG liking OKC they are shitting focus to 2019


PG is a professional. Only a someone who is deadset on poisoning the lockerroom would let it be known they are going to leave regardless.


「考辛斯受傷、保羅-喬治與雷霆化學反應良好,湖人將重心轉移到2019年自由球員市場上。」


保羅-喬治職業精神不錯啊,只有那種成心想破壞更衣室氛圍的人才會讓所有人都知道他無論如何都會離開球隊。


[–]Wizardsworkaccount1800 77 指標 8小時前


Like he did in Indiana?


就像他在步行者做的似的?


[–]PacersKyleRaynerGotSweg 17 指標 7小時前


Can confirm, thank the gods for Oladipope and Domas


步行者球迷:對,我可以確認他確實幹了。感謝上帝給我們送來了奧拉迪波和薩博尼斯。



[–]KingsRoyal_Kangzz 324 指標 10小時前

I highly doubt they"re giving up on 2018 FA months before it even starts


我真得懷疑,距離2018年自由球員開始簽約的時候還有幾個月,他們就放棄了?


[–]LakersLakersLAQ 163 指標 10小時前


This probably means we try to get one max this Summer and then another for 2019 instead of going all out for two max players this Summer. If you are Magic and Pelinka, you aren"t going to forfeit free agency just like that lol. I actually hoped they went in this direction. Bring in one max and maintain most of the team. Bringing in two max players this Summer would blow up half the team.


湖人球迷:這可能意味著我們打算在這個夏天簽一個頂薪球員,然後等到2019年再簽第二個,而不是今年夏天就拼勁全力試圖簽下兩個頂薪球員。湖管是絕對不會就這麼放棄自由市場的。我其實是希望他們走這條路的,簽一位頂薪球員、保持陣容大部分齊整。兩位頂薪球員會迫使球隊不得不送走大半陣容。


[–][ORL] Mario Hezonjadooleysucks 56 指標 10小時前


I"m worried that you guys are going to throw a max at Aaron Gordon since he fits your timeline really well, and I don"t know if we"d match it.


edit: Capela seems like a really nice fit too.


魔術球迷:我其實有點擔心你們會給阿龍-戈登一個頂薪啊,他合同剩餘年限正好跟你湖的自由市場戰略思路吻合,我也不確定我魔是否願意匹配你湖開出的合同。


卡佩拉看起來也是個不錯的人選。


[–]MagicByrie_Swirving 90 指標 9小時前


He doesn』t fit, they already have their version of AG in Kuzma. They also have Ingram at the three and might still have randle at the four.


I don』t see it.


魔術球迷:戈登不適合啊,庫茲馬已經是湖人戈登了,三號位有英格拉姆,四號位可能還會有蘭德爾。我覺得這個交易不太可能。


[–]NBAiPodTouchYourMom 614 指標 10小時前


110% chance they』re saying this to make teams think they』re not desperate to offload Deng/Clarkson/Randle


我110%確認湖人放出這種消息是為了讓別人覺得他們不是絕望地想送走鄧、克拉克森和蘭德爾。


[–]NBAwhy_rob_y 154 指標 8小時前


Also, it helps temper fan/media expectations if they strike out this offseason. If they get the guys they want, they look good, but now if they miss, they can just say they were aiming for 2019 - look, we said it (through sources) back in February!


而且,這也算提前打預防針,降低球迷和媒體的期望值,以防到時候兩手空空招罵。如果他們得到了理想人選,那面上就好看;如果失手,也可以就說球隊正放眼2019,我們2月份就(通過「消息源」)說了!



[–]BullsTheSufferingPariah 1395 指標 9小時前


Lakers gonna wait until 2019, then offer a max to D"Angelo Russell.


湖人會等到2019年,然後頂薪簽下拉塞爾。


[–]Lakersk_meezy 413 指標 7小時前


Isn"t that what the Knicks kinda did with Tim Hardaway Jr?


湖人球迷:這不就是尼克斯跟小哈達威之間那點兒事嗎?


[–]KnicksFuck_The_West 235 指標 7小時前


Yep. Call him overpaid at r/nyknicks and you will get treated like the Antichrist


尼克斯球迷:對啊。但是如果你敢在尼克斯板塊說他不值這個錢,其他球迷簡直會瘋一樣地上來咬你。


[–][NYK] Frank NtilikinaMarksyku 191 指標 6小時前*


I would call him an average shooting guard in the NBA and he is the 16th highest paid shooting guard in the nba, seems fair.


Edit: Source http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/cap-hit/shooting-guard/


尼克斯球迷:我覺得小哈達威就是個NBA平均水平的得分後衛,他正好也是NBA薪水第16高的得分後衛,感覺不虧。來源:http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/cap-hit/shooting-guard/


[–]KidFiasco 152 指標 9小時前


D"lo died for this?


拉塞爾為了得到這個大合同捨生取義了?


[–]LakersKimi7 109 指標 9小時前


D"Lo died for Mitch and Jim"s sins.


湖人球迷:拉塞爾為了庫普切克和巴斯的罪過獻祭了。


[–]LakersJGuez 37 指標 8小時前


Yep. Trade was stupid then and stupid now, IMO.


We could have probably done the same trade this week (trade deadline), but instead we pulled the trigger too early thinking everyone was going to want to come here this summer. We didn"t take the chance to evaluate if D-Lo and Lonzo could play well together.


湖人球迷:對,我覺得那筆交易無論是那時還是現在看起來都很蠢。


那筆交易我們本來可以這周做(交易截止日之前),但我們那時候出手太急了,覺得大概這個夏天所有人都想來湖人,並沒有試著去評估下拉塞爾和球哥能不能兼容。


You get a lot fans saying "Well we wouldn"t have gotten Kuzma", but I really doubt that. We still had the 28th pick, and if the Nets wanted Kuzma so badly they didn"t have to make the trade with us.


很多球迷覺得如果我們不做那筆交易就不會得到庫茲馬,但是我不這麼想。我們仍然擁有28號簽,而且如果籃網真得那麼想要庫茲馬,他們一開始就不會跟我們做交易。


All of that said, our team killed the draft this year, and it"s nice to have gotten rid of the Mozgov contract. But that only really matters if we had signed 2 max FAs this off season which every realistic person knew was not going to happen.


We should have been more patient.


儘管如此,我們球隊確實選秀選得不錯,處理掉莫茲戈夫的合同也很不錯,但只有我們今夏能夠簽下兩位頂薪自由球員,這一切才有意義,然而任何現實的人都知道這不會發生的。我們本應該再耐心一點。


[–]Netslaggedfadster 49 指標 8小時前


I don』t know why lakers fans argue this so strongly. It』s ok to admit you made a mistake while also acknowledging that you were able to find a steal in the draft. It』s pretty safe to assume that the lakers could have had DLo, Ball, AND Kuzma this year and be in a pretty unreal spot for 2019 and beyond.


籃網球迷:樓上說的對,我真不懂有些湖人球迷為什麼把這個(不交易拉塞爾選不到褲子馬)說的像既定事實一樣。休賽期的那筆交易是個錯誤跟選秀大會中挖到寶不衝突啊。我覺得這麼說應該沒問題:湖人今年本有機會組建拉塞尓、球哥和庫茲馬的陣容,從而將自己處於一個非常有利於在2019年(及以後)自由市場發揮的境地。


[–][LAL] Eddie JonesNikeNickCee 32 指標 8小時前


But the DLO trade did give us the ability to draft Hart and Bryant, (by trading the 28th after getting Kuz) while giving away the guy with knee issues who won"t defend, and the big who doesn"t have it anymore after the first month of the season.


湖人球迷:但是拉塞爾交易里我們用28號簽換來庫茲馬,這讓我們在賽季第一個月後就能夠簽下哈特和托馬斯-布萊恩特,順便送走了有膝傷還不防守的拉塞爾和來了我湖沒一個月就不會打球的莫茲戈夫。


I"d do the same trade all over again and I was a big Dlo fan. I wish we had more shooting but I"ll take the defense from hart/lonzo that keeps us in more games because cold streaks are less detrimental especially when you"re shooting more in the paint anyways


雖然我是拉塞爾的鐵粉,但如果能重來,我還是會像湖管那樣操作。我確實希望我湖能有更多的射手,但是我還是更偏向哈特和球哥的防守,因為防守能讓我們跟其他球隊僵持到最後。反正我湖也是內線進攻為主的球隊,手冷對球隊造成的傷害要(比防守差)小很多。



[–]RaptorsKingG_corporation 132 指標 9小時前


Also deng"s contract will be much easier to trade away in 2019 than it would be in 2018


而且羅爾-鄧的合同在2019年會比在2018年更好交易出去。


[–]KnicksQuinnett 218 指標 7小時前


true he will be so well rested by then.


對,到那時候他也休息好了。


[–]Lakerserizzluh 56 指標 7小時前


imma be mad if some team picks him up and he starts balling again


湖人球迷:如果哪個隊選了他而他又繼續上場生龍活虎了,我會氣炸的。


[–]LakersSarcasticSquare 63 指標 7小時前


He can win MVP and I still will be glad he"s elsewhere


湖人球迷:如果能把他交易走,就算他在別隊得了MVP我也開心。


[–]WarriorsTortadeMilanesa 23 指標 10小時前


I don"t. Who could they realistically add?


我不同意,現實點說,他們能要來誰啊?


[–][SAS] Manu GinobiliScreamingSpursLady 104 指標 10小時前


Paul George


Lol


保羅-喬治。哈哈哈。


[–]Celticssahsan10 12 指標 10小時前


IT


以賽亞-托馬斯。


[–]Lakersgodfrey1 37 指標 9小時前


im sure we are building a team that will play an exact opposite basketball than IT


湖人球迷:我很確信我們正在打造的球隊風格和小托馬斯的球風是風馬牛不相及。



[–]datnewproto 33 指標 9小時前


Smokescreen.


They"re all in on LeBron.


這就是煙幕彈啊,湖人隊是全力追求詹姆斯。


[–]Xlow48 299 指標 10小時前


They"ve been "recalibrating for next summer"s FA class" for the last half-decade.


湖人過去5年都在「著眼於下個夏天的自由球員」。


[–]LakersJpsla 91 指標 8小時前


It"s different when you show a promising core. Easier to get FA when the franchise had direction and potential. But it needs time to get to that point.


湖人球迷:我湖現在能給自由球員展現一個潛力無限的核心陣容,所以今年跟往年不一樣。如果球隊有方向和潛力,就更容易簽到自由球員,但是這需要時間的。


[–]LakersTylerdurdan75 49 指標 8小時前


We are projected to win 34 games this season which would be a big step up from last season. Not the playoffs like we hoped but it would be the best we have done since the dwightmare.


湖人球迷:本賽季我們預計可以拿下34場比賽,這跟上賽季比是進一大步了。季後賽是進不了了,但是已經是從霍華德噩夢年以來最好的表現了。



[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-BonsuSaprano44 334 指標 10小時前


BUT LEBRON, DMC, AND PG ALL WANT TO PLAY IN LA!?!!?!?!?!?


但是詹姆斯、考辛斯和保羅-喬治都想在湖人打球???


[–]CavaliersWhyYouReachin 136 指標 10小時前


Can』t forget Brodie


別忘了威斯布魯克也是。


[–][IND] Victor Oladipolhubbard0 103 指標 10小時前


And AD


還有安東尼-戴維斯。


[–]76ersTheMissingMeatball 73 指標 10小時前


And KD


還有凱文-杜蘭特。


[–]WizardsVswerve27 79 指標 10小時前


And derozan


還有德瑪爾-德羅贊。


[–]Clippersohmeohmy78 62 指標 10小時前


And Love


還有樂福。


[–]RocketsBeerDrinkingWeather 66 指標 8小時前


What about Nets Pick


還有籃網簽呢。


[–]rotavator 27 指標 8小時前


Wants to go play with Cash Considerations


他們是想和現金補償當隊友吧。



今日NBA官方宣布,湖人籃球運營總裁魔術師約翰遜因在近日的一次採訪中公開評論雄鹿球星揚尼斯-阿德托昆博而違反了聯盟的違規引誘規則,湖人因此被罰款50000美元。在此前接受NBA記者Nick Friedell的採訪中,魔術師約翰遜大讚了阿德托昆博。



[Shams Charania] The Los Angeles Lakers have been fined $50,000 by NBA for violating the league』s anti-tampering rule regarding the Milwaukee Bucks』 Giannis Antetokounmpo.


Some more info from Woj:


The NBA has fined Lakers president Magic Johnson $50K for tampering with Milwaukee"s @Giannis_An34. He made public comments about him in an interview.





[–][GSW] Jarrett JackGillbergsAdvocate 186 指標 4小時前


$50,000 for saying a player is amazing is a bit excessive


讚美一個球員就罰5萬美元,過了吧。


[–]LakersFaultus 37 指標 3小時前


damn, that"s like...my entire college tuition.


我靠,我大學四年學費不過這麼多啊。


[–]76ersMattV413 15 指標 2小時前


That"s more than I made in the last 2 years at my job.


這比我過去兩年的工資都多。


[–]Zammy512 1096 指標 4小時前


Am I reading this right? Magic called Giannis amazing and one day will win a title in Milwaukee? How is that tampering?


我沒看錯吧?魔術師誇字母哥出色,有朝一日會在密爾沃基得總冠軍,這就被罰了?哪裡引誘了?


[–]Lakerstylerjfrancke 711 指標 4小時前*


Apparently, FO types aren"t allowed to talk about players under contract with other teams, period. The fact that it wasn"t tampering is evidently why we were only fined $50k as opposed to the $500k that came down for PG. Seems like a pretty stupid and outdated rule tbh.


湖人球迷:顯然球隊管理層不能公開討論跟別的球隊有合同的球員,就這樣。這個確實不算引誘,也是為什麼我們只被罰了5萬美元的原因,而不是保羅-喬治那一次的50萬美元。這個條款看著真得是很蠢,也過時了。


[–]Zammy512 200 指標 4小時前


Thank you for clarification.


I am a Laker fan and totally agree with the Pg tampering fine...this one just seems absurd. Oh well lol.


謝謝澄清,我也是湖人球迷,也同意引誘保羅-喬治挨罰,但這個罰款就看起來很荒謬。不過…算啦,哈哈哈。


[–]Kingstomoniki 122 指標 3小時前


Nah, this is one of those blanket rules the NBA needs to have.


In this case it was fine but you know there would be GMs out there trying to find where the line is between complementing a player and tampering with a lot of arguments occurring as the league is subjectively fining people.


不同意樓上的看法,「球隊老闆不能公開評論身背合同」條例是NBA應該有的執行總則,適用於一切事物。


在這個案例里,魔術師這麼做是沒什麼問題,但是,如果沒有這個規則的出台和強有力的實施的話,就會有一些球隊經理在違法的邊緣試探,想找到讚美球員和引誘的邊界在哪裡,那到時候聯盟想要罰款的話就沒什麼依據,只能被人說是「NBA想罰誰就罰誰,太主觀。」



[–]Nets BandwagontheToBeHonestGuy 270 指標 4小時前


How』s that tampering though? The Bucks even posted his quote on their IG. Can』t say nice things about someone anymore smh.


這不算引誘吧?雄鹿還把他的話引用在他們的Instagram主頁里了。連說好話都不行了,哎。


[–]BucksWolfgang_Aiken 66 指標 3小時前


It"s really dumb considering Magic is a former NBA great, so of course he"s gonna comment on someone who he sees becoming an NBA great... This is a situation that is unique to the Lakers and he should be allowed to comment on other players considering his backstory


這太傻了,要考慮到魔術師是個50大球員,那他當然會評論那些他覺得會成長為歷史級別的年輕球員。這是個湖人獨有的特殊情況,考慮到魔術師的背景故事,應該允許他評論別的球員。


[–]LakersSunTzu- 149 指標 3小時前


It"s stupider than that. Magic was asked in an interview about the comparison of Giannis to him as a player. An article that the NBA was happy to quote on their own website, and then fine Magic for answering a question about his playing career/player comparison.


湖人球迷:實際情況更蠢。魔術師是在一個採訪里被問到他和字母哥之間的比較,這個採訪還被NBA官網引用了,然而隨後就因為他回答了一個關於他們之間籃球生涯/球員風格比較的問題被罰款。


[–]yeetking2 160 指標 4小時前


if steve kerr says "feet fetishists will all go to hell" then magic started retweeting feet porn would that be tampering


如果史蒂夫-科爾說「戀足者都要下地獄」,然後魔術師就開始轉發美女靚足*河蟹*,這算引誘嗎?[譯註1]


[譯註1]庫里妻子爆料庫里戀足。


[–][GSW] Jarrett JackGillbergsAdvocate 80 指標 4小時前


No but it would be funny


勇士球迷:不算,但是絕對好玩。


[–]MercyWhoDosentHeal 125 指標 4小時前


That"s ridiclious


He said Giannis will win a title IN MILWUAKEE


真是荒謬啊,魔術師還特地強調字母哥會在密爾沃基贏下總冠軍!


[–]HesiPullOutJimbo 173 指標 4小時前


they"ll physically be in milwaukee during game 7 of lakers vs bucks


giannis will be playing for the lakers though


對,字母哥奪冠的時候人確實會是在密爾沃基,總決賽第七場,在雄鹿主場。


但是字母哥到時候會為湖人出戰,TX。






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