辛基沒選過水貨？美JRs質疑辛基的選秀眼光被打臉

辛基就沒選過水貨嗎？美JRs質疑辛基的選秀眼光，結果打臉不成反被扇 

Why is it not talked about more that 

Sam Hinkie selected busts with 3 of his most important picks?

為什麼沒多少人提薩姆-辛基選了三個水貨？

參照他們的選秀順位，賈利爾-奧卡福、諾埃爾、和邁卡威都可以說是水貨。儘管嚴格意義上來說，諾埃爾不是辛基親手選的，但是辛基在諾埃爾一場比賽沒打的情況下果斷運作交易，設法得到了他[譯註1]，所以說辛基還是很重視他的。辛基故意擺爛給76人留下了很多歷史遺產，但是他在獎勵爛隊的選秀大會兩手空空無功而返的情況也不是沒有。

[譯註1]諾埃爾在2013年選秀大會上首輪第六位被新奧爾良鵜鶘選中，隨後鵜鶘和76人完成了交易，後者送出朱-霍樂迪和皮埃爾-傑克遜，得到了鵜鶘的諾埃爾和2014年首輪。

Jahlil Okafor, Nerlens Noel, and Michael Carter Williams are all major busts relative to where they are drafted. While he technically didn』t draft Nerlens; he traded for him before he even played a game which means he was very high on him. Hinkie has some great legacy for making the Sixers bad intentionally, but he ended up striking out on capitalizing their 

suckage.

我不明白在辛基多次錯失良機的情況下為什麼這麼多人吹捧他。好，諾埃爾是特殊情況，可能他還有潛力，可能獨行俠不會用他，不是不可能啊。但是邁卡威和奧卡福絕對是超級大水貨，辛基做了兩次極其糟糕的選擇。

I don』t get why he』s so lauded when he whiffed so badly. Ok, Nerlens is one thing. Maybe he still has potential and the Mavs are misusing him. That』s always possible. But MCW and Okafor are MASSIVE busts. Hinkie made awful choices twice.

[–]CavaliersxBornToBeDownvotedx 83 指標 6小時前

You can"t hit every time fam

不可能每次選秀都中獎呀。

[–]Knicksryeasy 326 指標 6小時前

by his own admission he said that there is a lot of variance/luck in drafting so the best way to rebuild a team is just to increase your raw number of picks

辛基自己說過，選秀總是充滿了變數，也有很多運氣成分，所以球隊重建時最好的方法就是囤積大量的選秀權。

[–][OKC] Semaj Christoncourtsidecrabfest 123 指標 6小時前

He knew he』d likely draft players that wouldn』t turn out great, hence making it so that he had more than two/three shots. 76ers weren』t ruined like the Magic or Suns, for example.

辛基當時心裡明白不可能每摸一次獎都中，所以他就儘可能地提升自己摸獎的次數。比如，你可以拿76人跟魔術和太陽比一下，那兩個隊才叫被毀的徹底。

[–]CavaliersDeanBlandino 93 指標 5小時前

Also he didn』t want Jah, traded high on mcw, and Noel was a very popular pick

1、辛基是想甩掉奧卡福的。2、辛基在麥卡威交易價值高的時候及時拿他賣了好價錢。3、至於諾埃爾，他當時是選秀大熱好吧。

[–][OKC] Semaj Christoncourtsidecrabfest 82 指標 5小時前

It"s clear to me that OP simply doesn"t understand the process. Doesn"t make it wrong. You can dislike it for other reasons though, and it wouldn"t be possible if five or six other teams were doing it the same way simultaneously. Hinkie banked on that no one else would dare, and he was right about that too.

很明顯，樓主根本不懂什麼是過程。你不懂不能證明過程是錯誤的。討厭過程的理由有的是，要是同時有五六隻球隊也像76人這麼搞，那過程也就無從談起了。辛基就是在賭沒有人敢像他這麼做，他也確實賭對了。

[–]Knickssawhero 16 指標 4小時前

Look at a team like Indiana, permanently stuck in 

no-man"s land each year with an average team and average draft picks. I"d rather be a garbage team and collect good picks, to stop the feedback loop.

Hell I bet their mindset this year was dump PG, tank, maybe finally get decent picks. But here comes Victor Oladipo putting up all-star numbers, dragging them straight back to an average team that"ll get average picks lol.

比如步行者吧，境地就一直很尷尬。陣容不上不下，選秀簽也一直不上不下。我要是步行者，我寧願擺爛囤積一些高順位的選秀簽來重建，打破這種無聊的循環。

呵，我覺得步行者今年的心態本來是甩掉喬治，這樣終於能搞到點好的選秀簽了。誰知道奧拉迪波神奇地打出了全明星級別的數據，然後…哈哈哈，步行者又變成了聯盟中游的隊伍，又能拿到不上不下的選秀簽了。

[–]TBdog 16 指標 3小時前

Nothing wrong with that. The sixers were the laughing stock of the NBA for years. Yet this is their most successful season and are 4 games off from that 

average team.

回復樓上，這種思路又有什麼錯呢？前些年76人一直是聯盟的笑柄。這賽季可以說是76人最成功的一個賽季了，但樓上口中的所謂中游球隊領先76人四個勝場。

[–][TOR] Norman PowellRendHeaven 56 指標 6小時前

Because they have Embiid and Simmons

回復樓主，為什麼吹辛基？因為他們有恩比德和本-西蒙斯啊！

[–]76ersxjcs97sy 103 指標 6小時前

Let"s act like Embiid, Saric, TJ, and Roco don"t exist

76人球迷：咱們就安慰安慰樓主，假裝恩比德，薩里奇，TJ-麥康奈爾和科溫頓都不存在吧。

[–][WAS] Caron Butler360Angel90 41 指標 6小時前

The MCW pick isn"t that bad lmao.

邁卡威選的很爛嗎？樓主怕不是要笑尿我。

[–]Lakersmysurgeon 62 指標 6小時前

It』s actually a FANTASTIC pick considering that he traded him for the Lakers pick that』s gonna be in the lottery this year

湖人球迷：豈止是不爛，簡直是棒呆了。他們交易邁卡威換來了湖人今年的樂透簽。[譯註2]

[譯註2]2015年2月20日，雄鹿隊得到76人隊後衛邁卡威以及太陽隊的邁爾斯-普拉姆利和泰勒-恩尼斯，同時送奈特和肯道爾-馬紹爾至太陽隊，76人隊得到2015年前5受保護首輪簽（2016和17年是前3受保護），2018年則是不受保護。

[–]Statshelp_TA 48 指標 6小時前

I give him a pass on MCW. That draft was a wasteland.

在選邁卡威這個操作上，我還是決定放辛基一馬吧。要知道2013年可是公認的選秀小年。

[–]76ersxjcs97sy 27 指標 6小時前

He also traded MCW for a very high 

value asset. What happened to MCW after that trade is irrelevant to Hinkie"s evaluation of him

辛基交易邁卡威獲得了有價值的資產，至於後面邁卡威打的怎麼樣就和辛基當初對他的評估沒關係了。

[–][MIN] Andrew Wigginstanay002 13 指標 6小時前

I agree, no one knew how good 

Steven Adams, 

Giannis, THJ, Gobert and 

possibly Roberson could be so that draft shouldn"t be blamed on Hinkie for drafting Noel and MCW.

同意，最開始沒人能知道亞當斯、阿倫托昆博、小蒂姆-哈達威、戈貝爾和羅伯森能成長到什麼地步。所以當初選到諾埃爾和邁卡威可不能都怪到辛基頭上。

[–]Knicksabippityboop 15 指標 6小時前

lol no it wasn"t.

Giannis, Steven Adams, Schroder, and 

Olynyk were all picked within the 6 picks after MCW. And taking the entire draft into consideration you also have CJ McCollum, Victor Oladipo, Gobert, Otto, THJ, Roberson, KCP, Cody Zeller, and others. That draft class was loaded with talent.

呵呵噠，不能這麼說的大兄弟。

字母哥、亞當斯、施羅德和奧利尼克都是在邁卡威後六位內選中的，如果看整個選秀的話，還有CJ-麥科勒姆、奧拉迪波、戈貝爾、波特、小蒂姆-哈達威、羅伯森、澤勒、波普等等，可以說是人才濟濟呀。

[–]FrozoneMcNugget 37 指標 6小時前*

No one knew how good they would become, their talents/potential weren"t really represented by their college careers. Hell, it took a ton of the players you listed years to develop.

That"s like blaming everyone who didn"t pick curry first

選秀的時候沒人知道這些青瓜蛋子能成長到什麼地步啊。他們的天賦/潛力在大學時代都沒有體現。你列舉的這些球員，很大一部分都花了幾年的時間才成長到現在的地步。

而且如果你非要這麼說的話，那當年沒先選庫里的就都是傻蛋了唄。

[–]DiddleMePink 93 指標 6小時前*

Because Hinkie traded MCW for a possible number 1 pick and probably could have gotten some value out of Okafor. Oh, and he made some amazing picks too.

Holmes, Embiid, Saric, KJ, etc

因為當時辛基交易邁卡威得到了高順位選秀簽（有可能是狀元簽），如果當時他沒下台，辛基完全可能用奧卡福換來點有價值的資產。更別提辛基確實選到了一些很不錯的球員，恩比德、霍姆斯、薩里奇和KJ-麥克丹尼爾斯等。

[–][PHI] Clarence Weatherspoontheytook-r-jobs 20 指標 6小時前

Okafor was the consensus #3 pick. You can judge him on it but if every other GM would have done the same thing then can you really blame him?

76人球迷：奧卡福是當年公認的探花秀，當然你可以指責辛基選的不好，但是要知道換成其它球隊總經理，他們完全可能做相同的選擇。所以還是好好想想吧，這事真的怪辛基嗎？

Noel was the top prospect, was drafted #6, and the whole draft was bad so I don"t know what you want from him there.

諾埃爾當時也很被看好，在第六順位被選中。而且從當年的角度看，真沒什麼好苗子，所以我不知道辛基到底怎麼做能讓你滿意。

MCW was later flipped for what will likely be a higher pick anyway.

至於邁卡威，辛基後來用他換來了一個（可能）更優質的選秀權，所以也就無所謂嘍。

Hinkie has some great legacy for making the Sixers bad intentionally, but he ended up striking out on capitalizing their suckage. I don』t get why he』s so lauded when he whiffed so badly

Because you choose to only look at the moves that didn"t work?

「辛基故意擺爛給76人留下了很多歷史遺產，但是他在獎勵爛隊的選秀大會兩手空空無功而返的情況也不是沒有。」

你這麼說是因為你只盯著一些不好的操作不放。

His suckage got us Embiid and Simmons.

He got Saric and our own first rounder back for 

Elfrid Payton.

He signed Covington, undrafted, now a top 3&D player.

He got us an unprotected Kings first rounder for free.

辛基的擺爛給我們帶來了恩比德和西蒙斯。

辛基選中了埃爾弗里德-佩頓，然後用他換來了薩里奇+首輪簽。[譯註3]

[譯註3]76人用10號新秀埃爾弗里德-佩頓，與魔術的12號新秀達里奧-沙里奇進行互換，同時魔術在交易中還搭上了一個未來選秀權，為2017年的前11順位受保護，或者是2018年的前8順位受保護。

他簽約了落選秀科溫頓，現在科將軍已經是聯盟頂級的3D球員了。

他幾乎讓我們白白得到了國王不受保護的首輪簽[譯註4]。

[譯註4]2015年07月01日，76人與國王交易，送走兩個2015年次輪新秀的簽約權，得到湯普森、蘭德里、斯陶、2016年首輪交換權、2017年首輪交換權、2018年首輪。

[–]76ersQuesoDog 4 指標 2小時前

Noel was #6 because he was injured. Without that injury he definitely would have gone higher iirc.

76人球迷：如果我沒記錯的話，諾埃爾當時是因為受傷才跌到第六順位，不然肯定會更早被選中。

[–]CarcinogenWentz 28 指標 6小時前

Nerlens wasn』t a bust in Philly. 

Granted we was always gonna be a limited player, but its disservice to call him a bust。

諾埃爾才不是費城的水貨，誠然諾埃爾可能能力有限，但也不能叫他水貨，這種評價並不公正啊。

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