最不喜歡的論壇現象：近期偏見，喜歡對比而不是讚揚球員
美JRs盤點最不喜歡的論壇現象：近期偏見，喜歡對比而不是讚揚球員
Your least favourite thing about r/nba?
你最討厭話題區的什麼現象？
Mine is by far the recency bias. It is unbelievable crazy and so common. Player A goes on a five game hot streak and cue the following posts:
『Is Player A a top 5 player?』 『Is Player A when its all said and done gonna be a top 20 player of all time』 『Why Player A is better than Kawhi Leonard』
目前為止我最不喜歡的就是近期偏見[譯註1]了。簡直太不可思議和常見了。球員A連續五場比賽表現火熱然後就會出現這種帖子：
「球員A是聯盟前五嗎？」「球員A的NBA生涯塵埃落定之時能成為歷史前二十嗎？」「為什麼說球員A比科懷-倫納德更好？」
[譯註1]：近期偏見是指當人們識記一系列事物時對末尾部分項目的記憶效果優於中間部分項目的現象。在籃球領域中，這包括但不限於過於高估現役球員。
Yes this is in response to the Damian Lillard overrating the past two months as well as a half of this sub who think Russ isn』t a top 7/8 player anymore.
沒錯，我舉的這三個例子就是回應過去兩個月以來各位JR對利拉德的高估和對威少的低估（半個話題區的JR認為威少不再是聯盟前七或前八的球員，說你們呢）。
[–]GrizzliesA_Topical_Pun 370 指標 14小時前
People arguing with you about players or teams that they obviously haven"t watched play.
For a more specific and personal one, people treating the Grizzlies like a Cleveland Browns level franchise because we"re having our first bad season this decade.
灰熊球迷：別人和你爭論著他們自己壓根沒看過比賽的球員或球隊。
拿個跟我主隊相關的具體例子來說吧：就因為我熊這賽季是近十年來唯一一次表現稀爛的，人們就覺得灰熊好像就是克利夫蘭布朗隊那種自成一檔的大爛隊。
[–]Suns TankwagonMasochisticCanesFan 92 指標 13小時前
Try being a suns fan bro. Imagine 5+ years of that
太陽球迷：深表同情，但是瞅瞅我們吧，被嘲笑了五年有餘啊！
[–]Raptorssirprizes 49 指標 10小時前
So if that』s the case wouldn』t Suns-Browns be a more apt comparison than Grizzlies-Browns?
所以如果是那樣的話，太陽-布朗隊不是比灰熊-布朗隊這個比較更恰當嗎？
[–]Sunssunsbr 29 指標 9小時前
Of course not suns is top 5 in win percentage many 50 win seasons grizzlies is worse
太陽球迷：當然不是啊，就隊史戰績來講，太陽的總勝率排NBA前五，打出了很多50勝的賽季，灰熊比我們要差不少。
[–]Bullsmyspicymeatballs 16 指標 9小時前
Feel like the organization, not only the team, has been kind of a mess these past few years tho. But i get the point
我感覺太陽的管理層（不僅僅是球隊本身），在過去幾年裡可是一團糟。但我懂樓上的意思。
[–][TOR] Hakeem OlajuwonTell-Me-Fun-Facts 13 指標 9小時前
If people think of the Suns as a shit franchise, then that"s a good indicator that they haven"t been watching basketball for very long. Maybe they"ll receive a lesson in Suns history soon, when your 2x MVP enters the HOF.
如果有人覺得太陽是爛隊的標杆，那就完美展現了他們沒看過多久球的事實。
可能當你日的兩屆MVP進入名人堂的時候，這些小球迷就會被教育一番，好好上一節太陽的歷史課。
[–]LakersZehahahahahaha 411 指標 14小時前
Whenever someone has a controversial opinion but has a solid point and gets downvoted anyways while no one is even replying to him.
每當有人發表了有爭議的觀點，雖然有理有據，但不管怎樣都會被點滅，而且甚至都沒人敢去回復（反駁）他。
[–]Raptorsderozansmole 193 指標 14小時前
It"s not just an r/nba thing. It"s an internet thing. People typically go with momentum a lot of times. It"s a weird thing people do.
這可不僅僅是咱話題區的毛病。這是互聯網的通病啊。人們總是會跟著輿論的風向走。想想哈挺怪的。
[–]76ers--__-__-__-_-_-_-__- 43 指標 14小時前
And whenever I point this out (that people will just downvote because other people already are) I become one of the victims
而且每當我指出這一點（人們是因為別人點滅而選擇點滅），我就成了眾矢之至。
[–][GSW] Baron Davisjetveritech 23 指標 12小時前
If you"re not with the mob, your against it
要麼加入輿論先行軍，要麼就經受他們的瘋狂點滅。
[–][LAL] Brandon Ingramkerim98 32 指標 14小時前*
Isn"t it possible to hide the score for an hour like other subs do? This could possibly increase the amount of profound and interesting discussions, as others don"t feel frightened to get downvoted instantly.
就不能像其他論壇一樣先將點亮數隱藏一個小時嗎？這樣可能會增加有深度的和有趣的討論量，同樣的其他人也不會因為被立即滅到摺疊而被嚇到。
[–][BKN] D"Angelo RussellEmotional_platypus 45 指標 14小時前
Idk if this is controversial but I get downvoted for it regularly. Klay Thompson will never be the best player on a championship team. I like Klay a lot like the rest of this sub but anything against him is instant heresy.
我不知道這會不會挑口水，但我通常會因為這個評論被點滅：克萊-湯普森永遠不會成為一支冠軍球隊里最好的球員。
我和論壇上其他人一樣十分喜歡克萊，但任何對他不好的話立馬就成了異端邪說。
[–]NetsHelloImMike 75 指標 14小時前
That"s not a controversial opinion on this sub, quite the opposite really. Maybe you were posting on the wrong thread at the wrong time.
這個觀點在論壇不會挑口水的，實際上正好相反，這是很合理的觀點。你可能在錯誤的時間進入了錯誤的帖子吧。
[–]76ersKingK5E 233 指標 14小時前
Recency bias and revisionist history
近期偏見和歷史修正主義。
[–][BKN] D"Angelo Russellj_cruise 46 指標 9小時前
People acting like Melo was never good ??
人們現在表現得就像甜瓜沒有牛逼過一樣??。
[–]76ersLorax1515 215 指標 13小時前
That hasn"t even been bad lately, and to be honest was never really a problem.
反對樓主。歷史修正主義最近可沒有很嚴重哦，實際上，歷史修正主義在本話題區的歷史裡從來就沒出現過啊。
[–]Hawkslilmigosvert 105 指標 11小時前*
you can"t be serious
edit: lemme hold this L
樓上你是認真的嗎。
編輯：感謝其他老哥提醒，我當了一回老實人，是在下輸了！
[–]Guevorkyan 163 指標 14小時前
The sometimes hilarious, but rather pointless, wouldbe comparisons like: "Would a Steph Curry without 3-pt range but with dunking ability be better than a fatter, hairier version of KG without proper footwork?"
有時候很滑稽但實際上毫無意義的比較，比如「擁有扣籃包但失去三分包的斯蒂芬-庫里會比體型更胖毛髮更多但沒有腳步版的KG更強嗎？」
[–]Celticsscarecrowbar 126 指標 13小時前
I mean how hairy are we talkin
我們到底在YY什麼樣的發量啊。
[–]Guevorkyan 20 指標 13小時前
Let"s say, one order of magnitude hairier. That would be 2 hairs.
這麼說吧，多一個數量級的頭髮。大概是兩根頭髮。
[–]Warriorstalanted_o 14 指標 10小時前
in between Stockton"s legs, and Drummond"s shoulders
你問毛量？大概介於斯托克頓的腿毛和德拉蒙德肩毛之間吧。
[–]ThunderStacheAdams- 147 指標 13小時前
Cherrypicked stats to fit homer narratives.
精挑細選數據來迎合充滿偏向的輿論。
[–][SAS] Kawhi LeonardEddie5pi 104 指標 12小時前
Personal favorite stat was that AD was the first player ever with a triple double with blocks on their birthday
個人最喜歡的數據是：安東尼-戴維斯是首位在生日夜完成蓋帽三雙的球員。
[–]RocketsHunterGuntherFelt 42 指標 11小時前
To be fair, that was just parroting the ESPN social media feeds
公平地說，你說的這條是JR在模仿ESPN的推送罷了。
[–]cyanmangos42 11 指標 6小時前
My personal favorite is the gem ESPN made
"Curry joins LeBron as only 2 players in last 5 seasons to record 25-pt double-double on 27th birthday."
I couldn"t have made a more juicy cherry pick stat if I tried.
我個人最喜歡的是ESPN的這條精品：
「庫里加入勒布朗，成為過去五年內僅有的兩名在27歲生日得到25分兩雙的球員。」
如果我來的話，再怎麼精挑細選也找不到這麼騷的數據。
[–]Rocketsel_monstruo 37 指標 11小時前
Yes, I absolutely hate arbitrary stats to help boost a performace.
一點沒錯，我十分討厭隨意選擇數據來渲染比賽表現。
[–]Jazzprobably_is_fhqwgads 79 指標 10小時前*
As a Jazz fan, I am so sick of the ROY arguments. Every time Mitchell or Simmons does something good it becomes a point of controversy rather than a celebration of talent.
爵士球迷：作為一個爵士球迷，我十分厭惡最佳新秀的爭論。每當米切爾或西蒙斯打出好的表現，就會演變成爭論而不是對天賦的讚揚。
I don"t care one bit who wins ROY, nobody remembers that award after a few years. Simmons and Mitchell are both going to be All-Stars/Super-Stars. Forget that award. In a few years, when these two guys are leading their teams to the conference finals, nobody will care who won ROY. Just celebrate them while they"re young.
我一點也不在乎誰會贏得最佳新秀，沒有人會在幾年後記得這個獎項。西蒙斯和米切爾都會成為全明星或超級巨星。忘了這個獎項吧。幾年後，當這兩個傢伙帶領各自隊伍到分區決賽時，沒有人會在乎誰贏得了最佳新秀。當他們還年輕的時候給他們讚美吧，別吵來吵去了！
[–][POR] Damian LillardBobbith_The_Chosen 5 指標 3小時前
Yeah for real it』s a cool achievement at the time but dosent mean much to your career. Dame won it in his rookie season, which he absolutely deserved to over Anthony Davis, but compare them now and Dame is nowhere near AD』s level. Nobody brings up Dames ROY award in arguments about who』s better.
開拓者球迷：說的太對了。最佳新秀在球員的新秀生涯算是個很酷的成就，但對生涯來說意義不大。利拉德在新秀賽季贏得了這個獎項，力壓安東尼-戴維斯，這是他應得的，但要現在來講，利拉德根本跟濃眉沒法比。當爭論他倆誰更好的時候沒有人會拿利拉德的最佳新秀說事。
[–]Rocketsmercwitha40ounce 13 指標 5小時前
Every time Mitchell or Simmons does something good it becomes a point of controversy rather than a celebration of talent.
每當米切爾或西蒙斯打出好的表現，就會演變為爭論而不是對天賦的讚揚。
God yes, that was this sub the whole second half of last season between Harden and Westbrook.
On any given night, the sub could be either very pro harden/anti Westbrook or vice versa, all based on if one of them had a good game.
你說得太TM對了，話題區上賽季就是這麼演繹哈登VS威少的。
在任何一天，這個論壇要麼是狂吹哈登/貶低威斯布魯克，要麼就是狂黑哈登捧吹威少，這一切只取決於威少和哈登誰在哪天打得好。
[–]MayorAvila 39 指標 14小時前
The constant complaining about shit that doesn"t really matter.
永遠在抱怨一些雞毛蒜皮的屁事。
[–]Lakerskbx24 25 指標 10小時前
When I see posts about stats that have no context.
There was a post about a week ago comparing Tim Duncan"s teammates to some present-day scrubs just because they had the same stats.
Recency bias is a pretty big thing on r/nba too.
只列數據完全不提背景知識的帖子最令我討厭。
大約一周前，有一個帖子把蒂姆-鄧肯03年的隊友替換成了一些現役的渣渣，依據僅僅是他們打出了相同的數據（得分）。
近期偏見在話題區也是個大問題。
[–]fatkamp 59 指標 14小時前
People that laugh and belittle your predictions.
For example: People would laugh at me and downvote me to hell if I said last year that Oladipo could possibly break out and lead the pacers to playoffs
我最討厭的是：人們會嘲笑並且貶低你的預測。
舉個栗子：如果我去年說奧拉迪波可能會爆發然後將步行者帶到季後賽，人們會嘲笑死我然後滅到我懷疑人生。
[–]Celticsmigibb 22 指標 10小時前
For me it"s this, combined with there never being any redemption if you end up right. It makes it tough to justify arguing an unpopular opinion.
對我來說就是這個，而且如果你預測對了，你當時被滅也就被滅了，不會有任何的補償。所以大家就越來越不願意去為一個非主流的觀點而據理力爭。
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