NBA記者展示最佳陣容投票，美國球迷：霍勒迪更該進一防
Zach Lowe awards ballot: All-NBA, All-Defensive and All-Rookie
Zach Lowe選出的最佳陣容，最佳防守陣容和最佳新秀陣容：
[譯註1]：Zach Lowe算是最受Reddit網友好評的NBA作家/分析師。
All NBA First Team: Lillard, Harden, Giannis, LeBron, Davis
All NBA Second Team: Westbrook, Oladipo, Durant, Aldridge, Embiid
All NBA Third Team: Curry, Paul, Butler, Simmons, Jokic
一陣：利拉德，哈登，阿德托昆博，詹姆斯，戴維斯
二陣：威斯布魯克，奧拉迪波，杜蘭特，阿爾德里奇，恩比德
三陣：庫里，保羅，巴特勒，西蒙斯，約基奇
All Defensive First Team: Paul, Oladipo, Giannis, Davis, Gobert
All Defensive Second Team: Holiday, Richardson, Covington, Draymond, Embiid
一防：保羅，奧拉迪波，阿德托昆博，戴維斯，戈貝爾
二防：霍勒迪，理查德森，科溫頓，格林，恩比德
All Rookie First Team: Simmons, Mitchell, Tatum, Kuzma, Bogdanovic
All Rookie Second Team: Ball, Smith Jr, Markkanen, Collins, Adebayo
最佳新秀一陣：西蒙斯，米切爾，塔圖姆，庫茲馬，波格丹諾維奇
最佳新秀二陣：鮑爾，史密斯，馬爾卡寧，科林斯，阿德巴約
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23131464/zach-lowe-2017-18-picks-all-nba-all-defensive-all-rookie
[–][IND] Victor OladipoSoFZebrA 280 指標 10小時前
Oladipo on the 2nd team? I knew there was a reason I love Zach Lowe.
步行者球迷：他選奧拉迪波進二陣？我就知道我愛Lowe是有原因的！
[–]SpursJordan2LeBron2Tatum 112 指標 9小時前
KOC and Bill Simmons have votes and they are also putting Oladipo 2nd team
Kevin O"Connor和Bill Simmons也有投票權，他倆也都選了奧拉迪波進二陣。
[–]Lakersso-cal_kid 65 指標 8小時前
Nothing wrong with that. Oladipo became a legit star this year. That team falls apart when he"s not there.
沒毛病，奧拉迪波今年真正蛻變成為巨星了，步行者有他沒他的時候就是判若兩隊啊。
[–]RaptorsSeiWhale 24 指標 7小時前
No Derozan ? I think he takes oladipos spot
猛龍球迷：德羅贊沒入選最佳陣容？我覺得他應該替代奧拉迪波入選。
[–]Raptorsjjkiller26 58 指標 6小時前
I think he"s more deserving over curry who"s played 51 games, and cp3 who"s played 58
猛龍球迷：我覺得他比僅打了51場的庫里和58場的保羅更有資格入選。
[–]CavaliersSMOKE-B-BOMB 40 指標 9小時前
I didn"t know Oladipo was that good on defense. Damn.
騎士球迷：天哪，我都不知道奧拉迪波的防守好到這個程度了。
[–]Lakersamazing_a-hole 26 指標 7小時前
Dipo had a 2.88 DRPM, 2nd among SGs to Andre Roberson.
奧拉迪波的防守真實正負值高達2.88，在所有得分後衛里排第二，僅次於安德烈-羅伯森。
[–]RocketsHyperactivity786 14 指標 7小時前
He and Butler have been the league"s best 2-way players this year.
火箭球迷：他和巴特勒都屬於這個賽季最好的攻防一體球員行列。
[–]HeatBSantos57 231 指標 10小時前
Finally a national writer puts J-Rich in their All-Defense teams
熱火球迷：終於有個全國聞名的NBA專欄作家把約什-理查德森選進最佳防守陣容了。
[–]RaptorsParappaTheRaptor 59 指標 10小時前
I am so glad we are avoiding him and James Johnson in the first round. Talk about pesky wing defenders. Yeesh.
猛龍球迷：我超開心我龍不用在首輪對上他和詹姆斯-約翰遜了，他倆可都是能讓對位球員陷入麻煩的側翼防守專家啊，噢耶！
[–]PelicansManler 97 指標 10小時前
My boys AD and Jrue getting love they deserve
鵜鶘球迷：我鳥的濃眉哥和假日哥總算也是得到應有的認可了。
[–]HornetsNamath96 48 指標 9小時前
Paul over Holiday for first team is silly. Also surprised PG isn"t on there at all
黃蜂球迷：保羅進了防守一陣而霍勒迪沒進？這太蠢了吧？另外泡椒居然連防守二陣都沒進？
[–][NOP] Jannero Pargoflaccidplatypus 328 指標 10小時前
I"m sorry but CP3 does not deserve first team all-defense over Holiday.
鵜鶘球迷：不好意思，比起保羅，霍勒迪更配得上一防。
[–]Celticslverson 72 指標 10小時前
I agree.
凱爾特人球迷：完全同意。
[–][GSW] Dorell WrightThunder_Clatter 64 指標 9小時前
Yeah this was really weird to me. Legacy vote.
勇士球迷：沒錯，這投票投得我也看不懂了，典型的地位票啊。
[–]RocketsHyperactivity786 110 指標 7小時前
I love combo guards, but I always include at least one true point guard to reflect the game-to-game reality defenses face. Paul beats out Lowry, Ricky Rubio, Dejounte Murray, Kris Dunn, Lonzo Ball and few others for the "pure" point guard slot.
Paul is just about the perfect point guard defender, at least in terms of tenacity, strength and technique. Everything about Oladipo above applies to Paul, too: he disrupts without making mistakes.
Read the article first guys…
引用原文：「我喜歡雙能衛，但是我投票的時候總會保留至少一個純控衛在我的陣容里，以此來反映比賽中的真實對位情況，保羅擊敗了洛瑞，里基-盧比奧，德章泰-默里，克里斯-鄧恩，郎佐-鮑爾和其他一些球員拿到了「純控衛」這個名額。
對我來說，保羅幾乎是完美的控衛防守專家，至少在防守韌性、力量和防守技巧上，他不輸任何人。他和奧拉迪波入選的理由一樣：都能在不犯錯的情況下擾亂對方的進攻。」
火箭球迷：樓上的老哥們，要噴也把原文看完再噴好嗎，人家給出理由了。
[–]Celticsward0630 105 指標 10小時前
#1 defensive team in the country has no all-defense players but also their coach isn"t COTY?
凱爾特人球迷：全聯盟防守排第一的球隊沒有球員入選最佳防守陣容？然後他們的教練還不是年度最佳教練？呵呵。
[–][SAS] Boris Diawzna55 167 指標 9小時前
He said on his last pod that Al Horford got screwed out of his spot because the NBA wouldn』t let him classify Covington as a guard.
馬刺球迷：他在自己播客上說了，艾爾-霍弗德之所以沒進他最佳防守陣容的名單是因為被NBA的規定擺了一道，他們沒把科溫頓歸到後衛的位置上，而是前鋒。
[–]Celticsteh_noob 181 指標 9小時前
? Horford is the victim of the worst kind of numbers game. Plan "A" was to slot Covington in as a first-team guard. Problem: The league has him listed only as a forward, and would not bend when a bunch of voters requested it. That Covington spent about 55 percent of his floor time defending guards did not matter to them. (He is also about to spend an entire playoff series mostly defending Goran Dragic -- a guard!)
This is, of course, dumb. It forced me to slide Covington onto the second team as a forward, and bump Horford off entirely. Well done, everyone.
Give the voters what they want, geez.
引用原文：「霍弗德沒能入選最佳防守陣容是因為最操蛋的數字遊戲。本來我的A計劃是把科溫頓放在防守一陣的後衛位置上的，問題就在於，聯盟的統計里只把他歸類為前鋒，而沒有後衛的選項，儘管好多投票者都提出了異議，儘管科溫頓在場上55%的時間內對位防守的都是後衛，聯盟還是不為所動（他馬上就要在一整個季後賽系列賽里防守戈蘭-德拉季奇了，沒錯，還是在防守後衛！）。當然了，這事超級傻叉，但這樣一來我就不得不把科溫頓放到防守二陣前鋒的位置上，然後霍弗德就被擠出最佳防守陣容了。聯盟的官老爺們，幹得漂亮！」
凱爾特人球迷：天哪，幹嘛不聽從投票者的建議改下規則呢，這也太扯淡了。
[–]RocketsHyperactivity786 23 指標 7小時前
It wasn"t just this. It"s more suspect than slotting Covington as a guard (so you didn"t see Lowe saying that a bunch of voters requested it), but Lowe said on his podcast that he had pleaded for DeRozan to possible be listed as a forward (and tbf, Toronto does play a lot of 3 guard lineups).
Had he been allowed to, DeRozan likely would have knocked off Simmons or Butler, iirc
火箭球迷：還不止這一處。Zach Lowe在播客上說了，他曾經向聯盟申請過把德羅贊也歸到前鋒位置上（公平的講這事也說得通，因為猛龍隊經常擺出三後衛陣容），這可比把科溫頓歸為後衛的操作難度更高（所以你沒有看到Zach Lowe說很多投票者提出異議）。
要是這麼操作了的話，德羅贊可能就會先於西蒙斯/巴特勒入選Lowe本人的三陣了。
[–]Nuggetshyperadhd 91 指標 10小時前
It"s nice seeing Jokic get a few votes from writers I really like, even though he probably won"t ultimately get a spot
掘金球迷：雖然約基奇最終很可能不會入選，但是看到他能從我喜歡的專欄作家那兒得到一些票數真是太好了。
[–][MIN] Mickael GelabaleRoyalLake 50 指標 10小時前
Honestly I feel like KAT is going to miss out from Jokic based on things I"ve heard so far.
森林狼球迷1：就我目前看到的消息而言，我怎麼感覺約基奇會把唐斯擠出最佳陣容呢。
[–][MIN] Wally Szczerbiakjake_o_white 93 指標 10小時前
KAT and Jokic are going to be fighting for All-NBA positions for the next 10-12 years and I』m here for it. Both so unique and fun to watch.
森林狼球迷2：可以預想的是唐斯和約基奇接下來10-12年都要為入選NBA最佳陣容爭鬥不休了，我就等著瞧這出大戲了，他倆都那麼獨特，觀賞性還強。
[–]Lakersso-cal_kid 40 指標 8小時前
They"ll have to battle it out with AD and Embiid!
湖人球迷：他們可是要跟濃眉和大帝爭啊！
[–][MIN] Wally Szczerbiakjake_o_white 28 指標 8小時前
For sure! I have AD and Joel in tier 1A and 1B right now though so KAT and Jokic are just trying to catch up. So much talent in this league right now.
森林狼球迷3：沒錯，濃眉和大帝是我心目里的（大個子）前二，同處一檔，但濃眉以微弱優勢領先。唐斯和約基奇還是需要迎頭趕上啊，聯盟里有天賦的巨星真是太多了。
[–]76ersTimbira 10 指標 5小時前
The Center revival is awesome to see right now. Only 2 years ago everyone was saying Centers were becoming the least relevant offensive position and Davis and Cousins were the only true star centers. Now many of the most exciting young stars in the league are Centers
如今這波中鋒復興真是激動人心啊，兩年前人們還在說中鋒就要變成聯盟里進攻影響力最小的位置了，當時戴維斯和考辛斯是僅有的真正巨星中鋒，而現在聯盟里很多年輕一代的巨星都是中鋒。
[–]Spurshiloljkbye 13 指標 5小時前
and then this next draft with Ayton, Bagley, Bamba, JJJ, Wendell Carter.... at least one of those guys will be a perennial all-star
對的，今年參加選秀的內線巨星苗子還有艾頓，巴格利，班巴，小賈倫-傑克遜，溫德爾-卡特等等，他們中至少有一個能達到常年進入全明星的級別。
[–]76ersKingSimmons 120 指標 10小時前
Ben 3rd team, Embiid 2nd team, RoCo 2nd defensive team? ??
76人球迷：西帝三陣，大帝二陣，科將軍防守二陣？一本滿足了哈哈哈哈。
[–][POR] Damian LillardFamilyguy35[S] 103 指標 10小時前*
? The only debate from there came between Lillard and Westbrook for the final first-team guard spot. Statistically, they are very close. Lillard has a tiny lead in scoring, Westbrook bigger edges in assists and rebounds. Both have been indispensable; their teams fall apart when they hit the bench. The advanced numbers flip both ways; their player efficiency ratings are dead even.
Portland edged Oklahoma City in the final standings, and Lillard"s far, far, far superior outside shooting and willingness to give up the ball (and get it back sometimes!) makes him a more amenable teammate. If you prefer Westbrook, I wouldn"t really argue. Lillard wins here.
Yes! Dame first team
引用原文：「關於最佳陣容唯一有爭議的一點是，利拉德和威斯布魯克誰更值得一陣後衛。數據上來看，他倆非常接近，利拉德得分小勝，威少在籃板和助攻上大幅領先。兩人對球隊都是不可或缺的，他們下場的時候，球隊表現會立馬下滑一個檔次。兩人的高階數據都不是那麼好看，他們的效率值也都差不多。對利拉德有利的是，開拓者最終戰績領先雷霆那麼一點，而且利拉德是比威少好得多的多的外線射手，並且更願意交出球權（有時候球還會倒回到他手裡），這讓他變成了一個兼容性更強的隊友。如果你偏愛威少，我也沒意見，但是我這一票要投給利拉德。」
開拓者球迷：噢耶，利指導進一陣！
[–][TOR] Delon WrightDelonWright 37 指標 10小時前
Raptors snubbed. Feel like we deserve either Derozan/Lowry on all NBA 3rd team or Defensive 2nd team.
猛龍球迷：我龍又被忽視了啊，我覺得德羅贊和洛瑞值得入選最佳三陣或者最佳防守二陣啊。
[–][NYK] Anthony MasonBlueHundred 24 指標 9小時前
I don"t know who to take out but I feel weird not having a Raptor/DeRozen
尼克斯球迷：雖然我不知道應該把這個陣容的誰換下來，但是沒有任何一個猛龍球員入選總是感覺怪怪的。
[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 9 指標 5小時前
Curry. Not enough games played
庫里如何？打得場次不夠
[–]Sunsemergencyfrequency 6 指標 2小時前
Curry is just better and I think an easy way is to decide is would you trade a full season of DeRozen for 51 games of Curry and I think I would. To be honest if all NBA was just straight up who are the 15 best guys that played this season it wouldn"t be close for any Raptor to make it.
庫里絕對是更好的球員。一個簡單的判斷方法：你願不願意用賽季全勤的德羅贊來交易只打51場的庫里呢？我反正願意。說實話，如果只是評選出NBA這個賽季表現最出色的15名球員，那猛龍沒一個人能入選。
The Raptors are the definition of a good team with good players but even with their improvements (Lowry & DeRozen) are not game changers. At least not like the top tier players are.
猛龍是那種典型的擁有一幫不錯球員的出色球隊，儘管洛瑞和德羅贊這賽季提升了他們的比賽水平，他倆也還沒達到只手影響勝負的水平，至少沒達到聯盟頂級球員那樣的影響力。
[–]_wizzkid_ 16 指標 7小時前
He talked about for a minute in one of his recent podcasts. He said if they could list him as a SF instead of only as a SG he would definitely be third team. I agree it sucks but they couldn"t really justify voting for him at SG.
Zach Lowe在他最近的播客里稍微提了一下這事，他說如果聯盟能把德羅贊歸到小前鋒里而不僅僅是得分後衛的話，那無疑會把他選進最佳陣容三陣的。這事是挺扯的，但是德羅贊作為得分後衛的話入選最佳陣容還真是說不過去。
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