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深度討論勇士和火箭搶七,美國球迷:砍卡佩拉的戰術真的太妙了

[Serious Next Day Thread] The Golden State Warriors (4-3) beat the Houston Rockets (3-4), 101-92, to set up a 4th straight Finals matchup with LeBron James and the Cavaliers.

[嚴肅賽後]金州勇士隊(4-3)擊敗休斯頓火箭隊(3-4),比分102-92,他們將連續第四次在總決賽對陣勒布朗-詹姆斯帶領的克利夫蘭騎士隊。






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[–]TimberwolvesOnePieceAce 223 指標 8小時前 
Steph is still the engine and best player on the Warriors. He"s impact is out of this world.
森林狼球迷:庫里依舊是勇士的發動機和最好的球員。他球場上的影響力太恐怖了。


[–]Knicksfrickindanielj 552 指標 8小時前 
Eric Gordon was the best rocket on the floor once Paul went down. He was really surprising.
尼克斯球迷:埃里克-戈登是保羅受傷後火箭場上最好的球員,他的出色表現著實令人意外。


[–]RocketsHuman_On_Reddit 144 指標 7小時前 
Eric Gordon is a baller. He"s dealt with a lot of injuries in his career but he"s been something of an x-factor for us these past two seasons. He can be too loose with the ball at times but he knows how to put it in the basket.
火箭球迷:埃里克-戈登真的會打球。他整個職業生涯都在和傷病作鬥爭,但在過去的兩個賽季里成為了我火的X因素。他有時處理球會比較懶散,但他對得分方面的事還是略知一二的。


[–][GSW] Stephen CurryTheMountainThatBalls 88 指標 7小時前 
Not to us. Dude has been a problem whenever we play them. Always knew he could shoot but I had no idea the dude could dribble and drive like that until this year. He was a warrior killer.
勇士球迷:(埃里克-戈登)他打得出色對我們來說可不算是什麼意料之外的事。不管什麼時候跟我勇對陣,他都是一個棘手的問題。我以前就知道他有射程,但直到今年我才知道他還能這麼運這麼突。真-勇士殺手。






[–]tps222 1444 指標 8小時前 
Hate it all you want, Hack-A-Capella was a brilliant call by Kerr to prevent any type of run from forming.
隨便你們黑科爾,但砍卡佩拉這個戰術簡直太妙了,這讓火箭什麼進攻高潮都打不出來。

[–]Raptorsslamdunk23 658 指標 8小時前 
Putting a young guy who struggles at the ft line in game 7 is a great strategy.
猛龍球迷:同意,讓一個罰球命中率捉急的年輕球員在搶七大戰里罰球就是一個很棒的策略啊。


[–]MavericksJPizzzle15 228 指標 7小時前 
Booty holes get a little tighter in game 7"s and it will show up on the FT line.
獨行俠球迷:搶七大戰-->菊花更緊。緊張和膽怯都會在罰球線上體現出來。


[–]LakersGiveMeSomeIhedigbo 107 指標 6小時前 
"You couldn"t get a pin up his ass with a jackhammer."

[譯註1]


「用氣錘都沒辦法把你夾在屁股里的大頭針取出來。」

[譯註1]形容人在極度緊張的狀態下,菊花也會變得非常緊。這句話出自1996年12月10日的一場NBA常規賽,火箭客場挑戰森林狼。當時查爾斯-巴克利效力火箭。在比賽最後一節的關鍵時刻,森林狼94-96僅落後火箭2分,森林狼的年輕球員克里斯-卡爾被犯規,在站上罰球線準備第一罰之前,巴克利上前對卡爾說了這句垃圾話。最終卡爾罰球不中,火箭偷走一場客場勝利。視頻:查爾斯巴克利對克里斯-卡爾說了什麼>>


[–]WarriorsCameronPlain 479 指標 8小時前 
It also took the air out of the building. The crowd completely died during that stretch. I never felt any doubt after that point that the Warriors would pull away.
勇士球迷1:而且砍卡佩拉也讓火箭的主場氛圍瞬間冷場。在那段時間裡球迷都安靜了下來。然後我就認定,我勇應該能帶走比賽了。


[–]Warriorsunclejusty 246 指標 7小時前 
Totally agree. It took away the 3pt options for HOU and he was going to make 1 FT at best. The Warriors would give the HOU 1pt per possession at that point for sure. Capela was playing pretty well also, just an awesome call by Kerr. It feels like he kept that in his pocket until he thought he actually needed it.
勇士球迷2:完全同意。砍卡佩拉戰術讓火箭沒法執行三分戰術,而且卡佩拉最多也就只能罰中一球。在當時那個階段,我勇每回合只讓火箭得1分。而且卡佩拉這場打得也很棒,科爾砍他是個極好的策略。感覺科爾這個錦囊妙計是藏到需要之時才掏出來用啊。


[–]LakersFLASH_SHAZAM 190 指標 7小時前 
Right?? He knew that strategy could work and saved it for the ideal time in the series. Great coaching move, and great patience to save it.
湖人球迷:沒錯,科爾知道砍卡佩拉戰術會有效果,然後把這戰術保存到了系列賽合適的時間才使用。明智的戰術,可怕的耐心。





[–]Warriors BandwagonEliMontana10 750 指標 8小時前 
7 man rotation gets you tired and Game 7 showed. Really you can"t play that intense defense for 7 games and then expect to be able to knock down all your 3s.
勇士球迷:7人輪換讓球員疲憊不堪,這在搶七大戰里顯露無疑。你真的沒辦法連續7場比賽都要求球員貢獻如此強度的防守同時還期望他們能投進所有的三分。


Harden without CP3 is a lot like the Cavs right now. Obviously Lebron is much better than Harden but it goes to show you one star is definitely not enough.
沒有保羅的哈登就像現在的騎士一樣。很明顯東詹要比西詹強,但這也說明了一點,就是隊里只有一個明星球員遠遠不夠。


[–]RocketsHuman_On_Reddit 169 指標 7小時前 
In addition to tiring out Harden more, missing CP3 also forced us to go deeper into our rotation and give Ryan Anderson some minutes. He unsurprisingly couldn"t stay in front of anyone on defense.
火箭球迷:除了死艹哈登讓他體力耗盡之外,保羅受傷缺陣也迫使我們開始啟用板凳球員,讓萊恩-安德森打了幾分鐘。絲毫不出所料,他誰也防不住。


[–][UTA] Donovan Mitchellshavegilette 225 指標 8小時前 
Yeah anyone blaming the shooting slump on bad luck or a choke job wasn』t paying attention to how focused they were on defense. Ariza was the most obvious.
爵士球迷:同意,那些說火箭投不進球是運氣太差或者自己掉鏈子的人都沒有注意到火箭在防守端投入了多少精力,阿里扎就是最明顯的例子。


[–][HOU] Trevor Arizamedical_cat 96 指標 7小時前 
Ariza did such a good job on Durant all series long. He was gassed.
火箭球迷:阿里扎在整個系列賽防杜蘭特都防得很好,簡直累壞了。


[–]WarriorsCTRL_ALT_PWN 82 指標 7小時前 
I think two of the Warriors starters hit 40 minutes before Harden. Kerr choked up on the rotations too.
勇士球迷:我記得,(搶七戰)我勇有兩名首發球員先於哈登打破40分鐘的出場時間大關。科爾也縮小了輪換陣容。


[–]Celticsamprosk 133 指標 7小時前 
Difference is D』Antoni shortened his rotation like 3 games ago.
凱爾特人球迷:區別就是,德安東尼大概在第四場就減少了球員輪換。






[–]Clippersjcw4455 1378 指標 8小時前* 
I get the fouls thing, but there are so many times that Harden actually makes the play about drawing a foul instead of scoring.Can"t rely on the refs to get your points in game 7.Steph dances at the three point line so he can get free to actually make a three. Harden dances at the three line often to get his defender in a bad spot and draw a foul.
快船球迷:我明白大家對犯規的質疑,但哈登確實有很多球都是沖著犯規而不是得分去的。你可不能指望裁判在搶七大戰賞給你一些分數。庫里在三分線遊走尋找機會,這樣他才能夠跑出空位投進3分。而哈登在三分線附近的操作是使防守球員陷入一個不好的境地然後造犯規。

[–]Lakersv2i0n 114 指標 7小時前 
Outside of the lack of fouls and the missed shots there is one thing I can give Kerr credit for. He is firmly aware to how the refs are calling the game.Yesterday the way the refs were calling the physicality was really inconsistent which is why it makes sense that Rocket fans are upset at that stretch in the third quarter. If you"re game plan doesn"t adjust to the way the game is being called then you will have situations where you are trying to force your offense to no avail.
湖人球迷:除了犯規少還有防到火箭投不進三分,還有一件事值得給科爾豎大拇指:他牢牢地把握住了裁判的吹罰尺度。昨天裁判對於身體接觸的吹罰反覆無常,火箭球迷對於比賽第三節的一些回合非常不滿也實屬正常。但如果你的比賽計劃沒有根據裁判的吹罰尺度而做出調整,那麼你的球隊就會出現進攻端無功而返的情況。


I think Kerr and his staff are keenly aware to when refs are allowing players to be more physical and adjust their offense accordingly. That is why he runs his off ball sets even more when the game gets super physical because he knows ISO situations will be an advantage to the defensive player if the ref is calling it loose.
我認為科爾和他的教練組敏銳地察覺到了什麼時候裁判開始允許球員有更多的身體接觸,然後根據情形調整了進攻策略。這就是為什麼他會在身體接觸變得異常激烈時打更多的無球傳切,因為他明白如果裁判吹罰尺度變松之後,使用單打戰術反而會給防守球員帶來一些優勢。


[–]AquamarineCheetah 405 指標 7小時前 
I"ve said it before and i"ll say it again: Watching James Harden play is like standing in line behind someone paying for $250 worth of groceries with coupons.
我早就說過,現在再說一遍:看哈登打球就像是你在超市付款排長隊時發現,排在你前面的那個人買了價值250美刀的各種食品雜貨,然而他還在用一張一張一張的優惠券付賬。


[–][PHI] Dario SaricTuraisk 113 指標 6小時前 
It"s like standing behind a millionaire playing for $250 worth of groceries with coupons. It"s worse because you know he doesn"t have to.
76人球迷:應該是你排在一個百萬富翁後面,發現他買了250美刀的食品雜貨,還用優惠券付款。這更讓人抓狂,因為你知道他根本不需要用什麼優惠券。


[–]TheodoreBear123 115 指標 7小時前 
100% agree. Like technically its not breaking any rule and is legal, but its just not the right way to do it.
雷霆球迷:100%同意。感覺吧,嚴格意義上講,他沒違反任何規則,完全呵護規定,但這這確實不是正確的方式方法。


[–][CHI] Derrick Rosejeric13xd 151 指標 8小時前 
He tried to fish for a foul by changing his shot almost every single time. Maybe if he shot it normally he would』ve made one in the 2nd half.
公牛球迷:哈登幾乎每次都試圖通過改變自己的投籃來騙哨。也許如果他正常投籃的話,他可能下半場就能命中一次三分了。






[–]WarriorsCameronPlain 841 指標 8小時前 
It"s unreal to watch James Harden simply hunting for fouls. First he works forever to get the switch he wants, and then you can just see him waiting for a player to reach in so he can grab their arm. Or he"s waiting for the defender to bite on a fake so he can jump into him.
勇士球迷:看哈登造犯規真是魔幻。首先,他費了半天勁換到他自己想對位的球員,然後你就能看到他等著防守球員伸手,這樣他就可以抓住人家的胳膊。或者他等著防守球員吃晃,這樣他就能跳到人家身上去。


It"s fucking insane how much energy he spends hunting for fouls. It"s gross to watch. He"s a great player, but that style of play does not deserve to be in the Finals.
他花了多少精力去騙犯規啊,簡直太不可思議了。讓著很讓人精疲力竭。他是個出色的球員,但這種形式的打法配不上總決賽的舞台。

[–]Rockets BandwagonARogueOne 166 指標 7小時前 
Harden is a great player, and would be my undisputed favorite player in the league due to the fact that he"s the best player on my second favorite team, if only he didn"t constantly hunt for fouls.
(季後賽期間跳槽火箭)的某球隊球迷:哈登是非常好的球員,要是他不是這麼一直騙犯規,那他就絕對是我最喜歡的球員了,畢竟他是我第二主隊的最出色球員啊。


Like clockwork, every time his team is facing adversity (blowing a lead, trailing late in the game), he resorts to it rather than just trying to score. As a premier foul drawer, he of all people should know that referees hold their whistles, especially as the game progresses.
然而每次,是每一次當他的球隊面臨逆境(被逆轉,比賽末節落後),他總會去騙犯規,而不是真真正正地努力得分。作為一名騙犯規高手,他應該比任何人都清楚:裁判,尤其是當比賽逐步進展的時候,是不會吹哨的。


Now, I know the refs being stingy helped the Warriors defense, especially when the Rockets attacked the basket, but still... Harden"s gotta play like the MVP he is and try his damnedest to score.
我明白,當裁判收緊哨聲時,勇士的防守會得利,尤其是當火箭攻擊籃筐的時候……但還是那句話,哈登必須像個MVP一樣戰鬥,用盡全力去得分(而不是造犯規)。




[–]foodisfantastic 697 指標 8小時前 
I get why houston fans are upset about the reffing, but i"ve seen no mention about the capela over the back fouls on practically every rebound.
我明白火箭球迷對裁判吹罰的不滿,但我並沒有看到有人提出卡佩拉搶下每個籃板球之前都有推人犯規啊。


[–]BullsHinduHamma 407 指標 8小時前 
Or ariza hand checking at will for the almost all of the game on durant.Ya they let em play alright...there"s aggressive and then there"s I"m just gonna lay my hands in your jersey every possession possible.
公牛球迷:還有阿里扎幾乎在每場比賽里都隨意對杜蘭特hand-check。裁判也就讓他這麼來了……侵略性是一回事,幾乎每個回合都把手放在杜蘭特的球衣上是另一回事。




[–]NuggetsRedSoxEatPoop 443 指標 7小時前* 
How about this for a stat:Steph Curry attempted 45 shots in game 6 & 7 and did not shoot one FT in either game...it wasn"t for a lack of driving either.
掘金球迷:來看看這個數據:庫里在第六場和第七場一共出手45次,並沒有得到一次罰球……這也不是因為他突破少。


How about another:Scott Foster (the man who r/NBA claims to have rigged this game) in Game 7 called 11 fouls on the Warriors and only 5 on the Rockets.
再來一個數據:Scott Foster(這個被話題區認為操縱了這場比賽的男人),在搶七大戰里給了勇士11次犯規吹罰,而只給了火箭5次。



In Game 7, Klay picked up 3 fouls (2 were iffy) in the first 4 minutes of the game.
Who exactly does this sub think the game was rigged for...?This post helps a lot and even misses a lot of calls that I think could be thrown in there in GS" favor.
在第七場,克萊-湯普森在首節前四分鐘就領到了三次犯規(兩次都說不準是不是真犯規)。那這話題區到底覺得裁判是偏誰啊?那個(討論吹罰的)帖子有幫助,而且我覺得還有許多對火箭的漏判也可以加進來。





[–][POR] Damian LillardFamilyguy35 397 指標 8小時前 
LeBron is gonna have to average 35-40, play 48 MPG and somehow get Green, JR, Hill, Korver to contribute. Best of luck to that man.
開拓者球迷:看來勒布朗在總決賽里必須場均砍下35-40分,打滿48分鐘,然後還得想辦法讓傑夫-格林,喬治-希爾,凱爾-科沃爾都有貢獻。祝他好運!


[–]WarriorsCameronPlain 254 指標 8小時前 
They"ll also need the Warriors to get in major foul trouble or somehow pick up another suspension like "16, or pick up another injury to one of the starters.
勇士球迷:騎士還必須讓我勇陷入犯規麻煩,或者能想辦法讓我勇像16年那樣再吃一次停賽,再或者我勇的其中一名首發球員突遇傷病。


The Warriors just held Houston under 100 points for four straight games. Their defence is locked in and will maul the Cavs. Lebron needs to be historic, and then they need a miracle or two.
我勇防到火箭連續四場比賽得分不過百,我勇的防守會鎖死並且擊潰騎士。勒布朗需要打出歷史級別的表現,而且騎士還需要一次或者兩次奇蹟的幫助。


[–]CavaliersIM_JUST_THE_INTERN 176 指標 7小時前 
And that"s just to make it competitive.
騎士球迷:而且就算是這樣,也只是讓比賽有些懸念而已。





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