字母哥練拳擊引起美國網友熱議：聯盟里有誰能成為頂級格鬥家？

Giannis on instangram "Just wanted to try something a little different...first boxing lesson"

字母哥發INS啦：「只是想嘗點新鮮的……第一節拳擊課。」

視頻：字母哥練拳擊（時長44秒）>>

[–]BucksAthalos124 339 指標 9小時前

Mike Dunleavy, we coming for you

雄鹿球迷：邁克-鄧利維，我們要來堵你咯！

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[譯註1]：15年季後賽雄鹿vs公牛G6，鄧利維對邁卡威兇狠犯規，隨後字母哥為邁卡威出頭怒推鄧利維，字母哥也因此被驅逐。

[–]HornetsIamOlderthanMe 206 指標 9小時前

The reach on this big fella.

字母哥這臂展簡直了。

[–]Bucksassmanbutiliketits 78 指標 9小時前

That trainer is probably a normal sized human being. Giannis is getting huge

雄鹿球迷：這訓練師應該就是我們普通人的身型，字母哥也太大隻了吧。

[–][LAL] Magic JohnsonPVT_Stanley 137 指標 9小時前

Giannis has to stop this... now I somehow want him to become the heavyweight boxing champion! I have more goals for him then myself!! ??

字母哥別再練了，我現在有點希望他能勇奪重量級拳擊的桂冠了。我對字母哥的期待比對自己的還多。

[–][OKC] Russell Westbrookrandomindiandouche 16 指標 9小時前

Imagine this 6"11 guy coming at you

想像一下這個2米11的大漢朝你襲來。

[–]Sunsimwilin 19 指標 6小時前

just lay down

憋說話，躺下就好。

[–]Vancouver Grizzliestraumakit 20 指標 5小時前

good advice steph

庫里你上大號說話。

[–][TOR] Vince CarterWalterDwight 958 指標 9小時前

In the words of Joe Rogan "Motherfuckers are lucky theres more money in basketball than fighting"

借Joe Rogan一句話：「狗日的們應該慶幸NBA比格鬥有錢賺。」

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[譯註1]Joe Rogan是著名的UFC解說員、評論家。他也是美國單口相聲演員、著名播客欄目（Joe Rogan Podcast）的主持人。在推特上有將近400萬粉絲。此前他曾表示：「想想吧，這麼一個狠人，要是他當初選擇了搏擊的話，所有人都完蛋操了（everyone would be fucked) ，他們應該慶幸打籃球錢多。對於那些說什麼」哎呀打籃球好不代表搏擊也會很出色啊"的人，我勸你們別扯淡了，詹姆斯能打爆你們(beat your fucking ass)」

著名UFC解說員Joe Rogan：自由搏擊運動員應該慶幸詹姆斯當初選了籃球>>

[–][UTA] Donovan Mitchellshavegilette 272 指標 7小時前

Didn』t he also say 「Bet he』s got a dick like a palm tree」

他是不是還說過「我打賭他二八有棕櫚樹那麼雄偉」這種話。

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[–]JazzTha_crack_fox 108 指標 7小時前

Look into it

「可以查一查。」

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[–]Warriorslooking4abook 140 指標 6小時前

Jamie - bring that up

「Jamie（播客的另一位主持人），把那個視頻/圖片調出來一下。」

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[–]Hawksmufflefuffle 55 指標 6小時前

Jesus Christ, look at the size of that Freak. He』ll tear your fucking face off.

「我了個蒼天啊，瞅瞅這個怪物的體格吧。他能把你的b臉都撕下來。」

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[譯註2]均為Joe Rogan（在自己播客節目）的口頭禪。譯者強烈推薦這個播客，美國最受歡迎的播客節目之一。

[–]dinkleberrysurprise 58 指標 6小時前*

The Rogan take was also my first thought when I saw this. Giannis, after this one training session, could probably end the lives of some regular dudes who』ve been training for years.

當我看了字母哥這個視頻後，我的第一想法和Joe Rogan的觀點一樣。練這一次，字母哥就已經有可能擊敗那些練了好幾年的普通人了。

Now I』m wondering who, besides Lebron, would be the most dangerous fighter. Assuming they trained their whole lives for fighting and are still in their physical primes.

我比較好奇的是，刨除勒布朗，聯盟里誰能成為最危險的格鬥運動員。前提是假設他們已經練了一輩子格鬥，而且身體素質處於巔峰期。。

Ibaka or Adams maybe? Or would they be too tall to the point it』s a disadvantage?

A guy like Bamba with stupid reach? You could probably never close on him.

A super light, long wing with absurd quickness like Tatum? I』m imagining him with a ton of Muay Thai type training, just a flurry of nasty strikes.

也許是伊巴卡或亞當斯？但是他們過於出眾的身高是否反而會成為劣勢？

或者像班巴那種擁有變態臂展的人？對手可能都拉不近距離。

像塔特姆這樣身高臂長敏捷值加滿的輕量級側翼球員呢？要是塔特姆接受過大量的泰拳訓練，那他那一頓猛攻可是讓人很難招架得住啊。

Maybe a shorter, big frame guy like Wade? He has insane reach for his height on top of his strength.

At least in terms of pure intimidation, I』d probably rather shoot myself than square up with Adams or Ibaka.

也許是像韋德這樣的矮壯男？對於他的身高而言，韋德的臂展可謂是不可思議，同時他還擁有朝牆的力量。

至少單論恐怖程度而言，我寧願斃了自個兒也不願和亞當斯或者伊巴卡在擂台上打一架。

Any solid hit from those dudes is gonna break bone IMO. A clean punch or kick to the face would definitely break my jaw and leave me badly concussed, best case. Probably even a decent chance of a skull fracture or life-threatening brain injury.

Edit: Westbrook and rookie Shaq are my favorite answers so far.

在我看來，如果結結實實挨了這幾位老兄一拳，那絕壁是要骨折了。如果他們給我臉來上乾乾淨淨的一記拳頭或者飛踢，我的下巴會被打歪，導致嚴重的腦震蕩，這還是最理想的情況。顱骨骨折或者產生危機生命腦損傷的可能性也不小。

編輯：截至目前為止，威少和新秀年鯊魚是我最喜歡的答案。

[–]Bullsnevergotgold 44 指標 6小時前

Once you get to the peak of boxing, reach and height aren"t such massive advantages. They definitely help, but Tyson didn"t have the longest reach or the tallest guy. At his peak he was so fast and had so much power behind his punches that all those advantages that other boxers had went out the window.

一旦你打到了頂級拳壇，那臂展和身高算不上特別大的優勢。身高臂展的確對拳擊有幫助，但泰森胳膊身高都沒啥優勢，但巔峰泰森每一拳的背後都蘊含這風一般的速度和頂級的力量，以至於其他拳擊手的所有優勢都消失殆盡了。

Right now the heavyweight division is weak, so you have guys like Fury who steam roll through the competition even though he is a poor technical fighter. It"s hard to judge who would be the best out of the NBA because you don"t know who really has the instinct or discipline to become a technically great fighter.

現在拳擊重量級很弱，這就是為什麼即便Fury技術平平，依然能碾壓對手。很難去判斷這些NBA球員真打上拳擊的話誰會更強，因為我們並不知道誰的格鬥直覺或者自律性能夠保證他們成為技術嫻熟的拳擊手。

[–]WildYams 33 指標 9小時前

Isn"t Floyd Mayweather far more highly paid than any NBA athlete though?

不過，梅威瑟掙的錢難道不是遠比NBA球員多嘛？

[–]Wizardskravisha 339 指標 9小時前

Sure but how much are the next 10-15 guys paid? How about the next 50?

梅威瑟拿的是不少，但是在他之下的10-15個人拿到的薪水是多少呢？再下面的50個人拿到的錢又是多少呢？

[–]KillinTheBusiness 84 指標 7小時前

Right? Like on the card with him and McGregor iirc there was a boxer on there making 5 grand for his fight compared to the like 200 mill of the main event. Shits lucrative for the very top of the top fighters but no one else.

就是啊。如果我沒記錯的話，梅威瑟和嘴炮比賽日那天，同場有一位拳手的出場費只有5000塊，而壓軸主賽的這哥倆卻能輕鬆入賬2個億。只有最頂級的拳手才能賺到錢，小魚小蝦們可能都吃不飽飯。

[–]Mtgo_oyola 41 指標 7小時前*

Floyd is his own promoter. Promoters take a huge cut in a fight. Boxing also has a lot of politics and not many real boxing fans. Boxing revenue is driven by the casual fan i.e McGregor vs Mayweather. Guys from my gym and some guys I box have not been given title fights because they aren"t recognized by the masses except boxing nuts.

梅威瑟是他自己的經紀人。經紀人會狠狠抽成。拳擊這項運動有著太多的潛規則，並且沒多少人是真正的拳擊粉絲。拳擊的營收大多來源於那些跟風粉，梅威瑟跟嘴炮的那場比賽就是個例子。我拳館的有些哥們還有跟我打過拳一些老哥都沒資格打冠軍賽，就因為大眾不認識他們，只有拳擊狂熱粉絲才知道他們的名字。

One guy i know derevyachenko has been a mandatory fight for GGG but because the fight won"t produce revenue. GGG instead is fighting Canelo for 10 million I believe; the negotiations with derevyachenko I believe I heard would only be a couple million. Imagine the warriors refused to play the Bucks in the finals because the game wouldn"t produce the revenue and instead played the lakers. That happens all the time in boxing.

有一個哥們跟我爆料說，Derevyachenko和GGG之間的對戰本來是板上釘釘的，但是因為這場比賽賽並不吸睛，帶來不了收入。這場比賽變成了GGG和Canelo的一千萬美元爭奪賽。我聽說之前主辦方跟Derevyachenko協商的時候只答應給他幾百萬美元。跟你們這麼比喻吧：勇士隊拒絕和雄鹿打總決賽，就因為這輪總決賽帶來不了收益。於是勇士轉而和湖人打總決賽。這種事在拳擊賽場每時每刻都在發生。

When you are up and coming, you fight for a few thousand and if you lose a bout there goes your career. Mayweather made being undefeated fashionable and if you lose a match early on in your career you have to start from square one.

當你嶄露頭角時，你為了幾千塊都要上場打。但如果你輸了一場，你的職業生涯基本可以宣告結束了。梅威瑟讓不敗神話變得流行，一旦拳手在生涯早期輸掉一場比賽，那麼他將不得不從頭再來。

Boxing is also about self promotion. Idiot boxers can get paid 6 figures for fights even though they just started because they have a good promoter and have an IG following, but fighters who fought 300+ amateur bouts with a great record and went to Olympics could be overlooked because you are from the overseas.

拳擊也跟自我營銷有關。如果有不錯的經紀人和大批INS粉絲，哪怕是剛剛開始職業生涯的白痴拳手都能拿到6位數的出場費。而那些在擂台身經百戰，戰績優秀甚至參加過奧運會的運動員往往會被忽視，只因他們是外國人。

I know and train with European born boxers based in Brooklyn and trust me it isn"t a lavish life despite being some of the top fighters in the world. Imagine demar DeRozan getting paid 500K. That is what happens in the fighting world fighters who are tier 2 living off 30 to 80K but dealing with all the abuse of fighting.

我認識一些住在布魯克林的歐洲拳手，也跟他們一起訓練。相信我，儘管他們有些人是世界頂級的拳手，但他們並沒過上奢華的生活。想像一下德羅贊的年薪只有50萬刀吧。這就是在拳擊這項運動中會發生的。那些二檔拳手只能拿到3萬到5萬的年薪過活，然而他們卻要面對拳擊所帶來的一切風險。

A UFC fighter who recently left back in December told me how they don"t help the guys post retirement. He quit before getting seriously hurt and got a job in the city so he can have pension when he is old, not be old, broke, and brain damaged.

一個在12月從UFC退役的格鬥運動員告訴我，UFC不會在拳手們退休後給予任何協助。他在嚴重受傷前退出了UFC，並在市裡找到了一份工作，這樣他便能在以後拿到養老金，不用天天為變老，骨折，腦損傷這些事擔驚受怕了。

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