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誰是聯盟中最被低估的球員?小球市多名球員上榜,霍弗德也應入選?

Who is the most underrated player in the league?


誰是NBA最被低估的球員?







[–][DEN] Emmanuel MudiayTMaQuist 352 指標 9小時前


Gary "Gary Harris" Harris


加里-「加里-哈里斯」-哈里斯。

[譯註1]


[譯註1]掘金隊在今年1月發布了一部偽電影宣傳片《金色血液(Gold Blooed)》,為球隊多球名球員進行全明星拉票。片中幾乎每個人都有一個酷炫的角色:尼古拉-約基奇飾「小丑(The Joker)」,威爾-巴頓飾「顫慄者(The Thrill)」,賈馬爾-默里飾「藍箭俠(The Blue Arrow)」,梅森-普拉姆利飾「普民窟的百萬富翁(Plumdog Millionaire,改自電影名《貧民股的百萬富翁(Slumdog Millionaire)》)」。而加里-哈里斯卻飾演自己,於是加里-「加里-哈里斯」-哈里斯就成了加里-哈里斯的外號。





[–][UTA] Dell CurryDeathBySuplex 450 指標 10小時前


Derrick Favors is the ultimate team guy, sacrifices touches, shots, minutes, whatever it takes to win.


Honestly thought some team would try and sign him away from us, but nobody tried.


爵士球迷:德里克-費沃斯是極致的團隊球員,只要能贏球,犧牲觸球次數、出手、出場時間都不是事兒。


老實說我本來認為起碼有幾支球隊會試著從我們這挖走他,但是一支都沒有。




[–][TOR] Pops Mensah-BonsuSaprano44 82 指標 10小時前


Injury prone 4 with the skill set of a 5.


I can see why teams didn"t go for him, but he is a solid player.


擁有五號位技能包的玻璃人四號位……

我能理解為啥沒有球隊追逐他,但他的確是個靠譜的球員。




[–]Jazzedbenz 51 指標 9小時前


He"s definitely better than some starting 5s though


爵士球迷:不過他絕對比某些球隊的首發5號位要強。




[–]TimberwolvesDioBrando101 35 指標 9小時前


For my rebuttal Taj Gibson. Pretty much for the same reasons, he"s just an ultimate glue guy, amazing defensive presence, always healthy and always consistent there isnt much more you expect from that man.


森林狼球迷:我要拿泰-吉布森反駁下層主。原因也差不多,他也是一名極品膠水型球員,還有超強的防守存在感,耐操,發揮還穩定。真的沒法要求更多了。





[–]BushyBeard3 38 指標 6小時前


All of the pacers


步行者全隊。




[–]Jazzdank_as_fuck 15 指標 5小時前


Sabonis for sure. Kid started going off during playoffs and he"s the backup. Honestly that whole Pacers roster is pretty underrated.


爵士球迷:薩博尼斯確實被低估了。這孩子作為一名替補球員在季後賽直接爆發了。說老實話步行者全隊球員都被低估了。




[–][IND] Victor Oladipolhubbard0 86 指標 9小時前

Thad Young


步行者球迷:賽迪斯-楊。




[–][DEN] Jamal Murrayillmatic23- 22 指標 7小時前


Completely clamped love in the playoffs. He"s an awesome defender


楊在季後賽完全鎖死了樂福。他是一個很出色的防守球員。






[–][SAC] Buddy HieldTrevhaar 70 指標 8小時前


Bogdan Bogdanovic

國王球迷:波格丹-波格丹諾維奇。




[–]bigballerbraindead 231 指標 9小時前


Jrue


朱-霍勒迪。




[–]Shameful_Lobster 152 指標 8小時前


I feel like he was before last season. But he had a career year with all-nba defensive honors and wrecked Portland in the playoffs. So a lot of people noticed his skill and now I think most people rate him well.


在上個賽季之前霍勒迪是被低估了。但是他上賽季不僅拿了一防還在季後賽摧毀了波特蘭開拓者,打出了職業生涯最精彩的一年。所以很多人注意到了他的球技,所以我覺得現在大多數人對他評價不低哦。



[–]Celticskyp666 30 指標 7小時前


The question should always add the factor of whether he"s underated here or by the general fans. He"s definetely not underated here on reddit but he def is underated by your average joe fan.


凱爾特人球迷:這個問題一直都應該加個條件,是在咱們話題區被低估還是在普通球迷心中被低估?


霍勒迪在話題區完全沒有被低估,但是他絕逼被普通球迷們低估了。






[–][ATL] Kyle Korverkkorver6 43 指標 9小時前


Paul Millsap


老鷹球迷:保羅-米爾薩普。



[–]76ersyingtinger 71 指標 9小時前


Dario Saric


76人球迷:達里奧-沙里奇。




[–]GillCheds 34 指標 7小時前


Khris Middleton.


For me, he"s a borderline stud. And not even in the all-star game. He"ll most likely make it this year though. His playoff performance last season might"ve took him out of 「underrated」 player. But I still stand by it until he"s an all-star.


克里斯-米德爾頓。


對我來說,他算是個准巨星。結果他竟然還沒入選過全明星,不過今年他將有很大可能入選。他上賽季季後賽的表現應該可以讓他跳出「被低估」球員的印象,但在他成為全明星之前我會一直認為他是被低估的。



[–]Bullszackjewerg 83 指標 9小時前


Taurean prince


托里恩-普林斯。






[–][HOU] Clint CapelaGettingLostInDaSauce 251 指標 10小時前


PJ Tucker, the 6"4 center


火箭球迷:PJ-塔克,1.93米的大中鋒。




[–]DefNotAHobbit 59 指標 7小時前


He"s kind of like if Chuck Hayes ever figured out how to shoot at an average level.


他就像是突然開竅投籃水平達到中游的查克-海耶斯。




[–][CHI] Derrick RoseOcho-Ocho-Ocho 37 指標 7小時前


God, Chuck fucking Hayes


我天,MLGBD查克-海耶斯。




[–]RocketsNietzsche_Darko 15 指標 5小時前


Legend. His triple double game is seared in my memory.


火箭球迷:傳奇啊。他拿三雙的那場比賽深深地存在了我的腦海里。






[–]Heatcaptianchase 99 指標 7小時前*


Mirotic is one of the most valuable guys who doesn"t get talked about enough, dude always puts up big on/off splits because his ability to space the floor, move around off-ball, and hold up reasonably well on defense


米羅蒂奇是沒被人們怎麼談到的球員中最出色的之一, 他總是能得到很高的正負值,因為他可以拉開空間,無球跑位,對方的防守強度上來了自己的進攻也能頂得住。




edit: The replies to this are exactly why he"s underrated, despite all the concern about him being inconsistent, claims he was only good for the last 20 games, and Bulls fans happy to see him go (which they should have been because he was ruining their tank), he still put up great on/off splits because his style of play and gravity helped the team a lot on a possession by possesion basis.


編輯:回復我的這些評論恰恰說明了他為什麼被低估,儘管大家都說他有不穩定的問題、稱他只在最後20場打得不錯、說公牛球迷對於他的離開喜聞樂見(這是應該的,因為米羅蒂奇當時正在毀了他們的擺爛大計),他還是奉獻了優秀的正負值數據,因為他打球的風格和場上的引力為球隊的每一個回合都提供了極大的幫助。




If you only watch him when he had the ball (which is what most fans do) you completely miss his biggest impact. The last 2 years on the Bulls the only player who played real minutes who beat him in on/off for either season was Butler, who is an all-NBA level player


如果只看他拿球時的表現(大多數球迷就是這樣的)那你就錯過了他對球隊影響最大的方面。在公牛的最後兩年,只有一名有真正出場時間的球員的「在場與不在場時凈效率值差」比他高,就是最佳陣容級別的吉米-巴特勒。



































































































































+/- +/-
賽季 年齡 球隊 聯盟 位置 場次 上場總時
間/分鐘
在場時凈效率值
在場與不在場
時凈效率值差
2014-15 23 公牛
NBA PF 82 1654 +5.5 +3.8
2015-16 24 公牛
NBA PF 66 1646 0.0 +2.9
2016-17 25 公牛
NBA PF 70 1679 +4.7 +8.1
2017-18 26 公牛/鵜鶘 NBA PF 55 1494 +4.9 +9.5
2017-18 26 公牛
NBA PF 25 622 +3.7 +13.5
2017-18 26 鵜鶘
NBA PF 30 872 +5.6 +4.9
職業生涯

NBA
273 6473 +3.8 +6.0









4 個賽季
公牛 NBA
243 5601 +3.5 +5.9
1 個賽季
鵜鶘 NBA
30 872 +5.6 +4.9



Provided by Basketball-Reference.com:  View Original Table Generated 8/18/2018.


數據由Basketball-Reference.com提供:查看原始表格 導出時間:2018年8月18日




[–]WasteBuy 20 指標 5小時前


If you were a Bulls fan, the last two years while he was in chicago were not fun to watch. It seemed like he couldn"t find his flow and was disheartening to watch especially after the rookie march madness he had.


如果你是一名公牛球迷,就知道他在公牛最後兩年的表現就沒有什麼亮點。他好像找不到自己的節奏,看他的比賽讓人很失望,看過他新秀賽季的三月瘋狂後尤其如此。




[–][CHI] Derrick RoseOcho-Ocho-Ocho 26 指標 7小時前


He can be really frustrating at times, wouldn"t say he"s all that underrated.


公牛球迷:他有時候真的讓人很鬧心,他真沒有那麼被低估。






[–]texans998010 95 指標 10小時前


Not the most, but Barnes never seems to get much appreciation.


雖然不是最被低估的,不過巴恩斯好像沒有得到足夠的讚美。




[–]MavericksMysteriagant 51 指標 9小時前


Matt or Harrison?


小牛球迷:你說的是馬特-巴恩斯還是哈里森-巴恩斯?




[–][OKC] Russell WestbrookAnti_Thon 132 指標 9小時前


Exactly


雷霆球迷:樓上精準的表達了層主的意思。






[–][GSW] Butch BeardFlyZwodder 138 指標 10小時前


Josh Richardson


約什-理查德森。




[–]NBAAugustKellerWrites 86 指標 10小時前


JRich might be Miami"s best player and most casual fans don"t know his name.


JRich或許是熱火最好的球員,然而大多數不常看球的球迷都沒聽過這名字。




[–]Lakerslegless_chair 56 指標 9小時前


I understand Jason Richardson has been retired for a hot minute but he"s always the first guy to come to mind when people call Josh Richardson JRich.


我知道傑森-理查德森已經退役很久了,不過當有人把約什-理查德森叫做JRich的時候我腦海里第一個想到的總是傑森-理查德森。






[–]BURRITO_JONES 90 指標 10小時前


Al Horford.


艾爾-霍弗德。




[–]Celticsnikebauerr 86 指標 9小時前


I think he gets his due now but Al was severely disrespected by this sub during his first year in Boston


凱爾特人球迷:我想他現在得到了應有的尊重了,不過來我凱的第一年,他在話題區非常被看不起。




[–][PHI] T.J. McConnellHesi_Pull-up_Timbo 17 指標 5小時前


Yeah it"s fair to call him underrated when people were putting him below Clint Capella. He tore us to shreds in our series


76人球迷:沒錯,當人們認為克林特-卡佩拉比他更優秀的時候,說他被低估一點毛病沒有,他在季後賽把我們都虐成渣了。







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