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喬丹的彈跳和扣籃「教壞」了孩子們?庫里的影響方式是超遠三分

邁克爾-喬丹曾在1997年表示,NBA對他彈跳和扣籃的大肆宣傳影響了小孩子們練基本功,因為孩子們總是在模仿他,而不是專註於投籃和防守。



Michael Jordan said in 1997 that the NBA"s marketing of his jumping and dunking hurt young kids" fundamental skills, because they imitated him instead of focusing on shooting and defense.





From Hoop magazine, April 1997:


Q: There has been a theory expressed that the young, high-flying Michael Jordan had such a great influence on kids that shooting skills and fundamentals aren"t as strong any more. Kids tried to imitate your jumping and dunking, rather than your shooting and defense, and as a result, the shooting skills of young players isn"t as great as it used to be. What are your feelings on that?


節選自《灌籃》雜誌,1997年4月刊:


提問:有這麼一種說法,說年輕時期那個在空中打球的邁克爾-喬丹在孩子們心中產生了巨大的影響,以至於現在孩子們的投籃技術和基本功都不再那麼紮實了。孩子們試著模仿你的起跳和扣籃,而不是你的投籃和防守,結果,年輕球員們的投籃技術不再像以往的球員那般精湛了。你怎麼看?




Jordan: I don"t think it was Michael Jordan. I think it was the exposure of Michael Jordan; the marketing of Michael Jordan. Everything was marketed towards the things that people wanted to see, which was scoring and dunking. That Michael Jordan still played defense and an all-around game, but it was never really publicized.


喬丹:我不覺得是邁克爾-喬丹的鍋。我覺得問題在於「邁克爾-喬丹」的曝光度和市場營銷。一切的一切都針對大眾希望看到的那個方向在宣傳,就是得分和扣籃。邁克爾-喬丹仍舊在防守,有著非常全面的技術,但是這從來都沒有真的被大肆宣傳。




I think if you want to blame me for some of that, you have to blame a lot of people. We have the dunking contest at the All-Star Game and things like that. That was the type of thing that was promoted then, unlike now, when the league is promoting a lot of other aspects of the game. I think we all have to take a little credit for the way we promoted the game.

我認為,如果你想因為這些而責備我,那你還得責備很多很多人。我們在全明星周末有扣籃大賽,還有等等類似的一些東西。這是當時聯盟在推廣的元素,但是現在不了,聯盟現在在推廣比賽中的很多其他方面的元素。我覺得我們都得為我們推廣比賽的方式而受到一些表揚吧。




I think it was the same way with Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, but it increased when I came in because of my ability to jump. I have to admit that it had an effect on the game, but we all have to take a little credit.


這跟拉里-伯德和魔術師-約翰遜對孩子們的影響也是一個道理,但是由於我的彈跳能力,這一切在我進入聯盟後被放大了。我得承認這對比賽有著影響,但不是我一個人的功勞。






[–]kyrieeleisen23 465 指標 1 天前


Fuck u Michael now my only skill is dunking from the free throw line


都TM賴你喬丹,我現在只會罰球線扣籃這一招。



[–]Spurskorny4u 147 指標 1 天前


Jordan playing the long con to protect his legacy as GOAT. Making sure these new youngbloods don"t have good fundamentals.


為了捍衛自己歷史第一人的地位,喬丹這線放得是真長啊。用這招來確保這些年輕人們沒有紮實的基本功,嘖嘖嘖。




[–][WAS] Gheorghe Muresankubideh_fuckdwight 317 指標 1 天前


and yet jordan refuses to right this wrong by giving charismatic fan favorite kawhi leonard the bajillions he deserves from jordan brand


奇才球迷:而且喬丹還拒絕糾正這個錯誤,AJ竟然拒絕給那麼有魅力那麼受球迷喜愛的科懷-倫納德應得的球鞋大合同。??




[–]PacersHelpfulPersonHere 167 指標 1 天前


Jordan"s sheer effect on the game of basketball will be difficult to eclipse

喬丹對籃球的巨大影響將很難被超越。




[–]JazzBlackDrackula 116 指標 1 天前


He was so massive that a pro league in another country basically went from niche to mainstream. Basketball basically became mainstream in Australia because there was so much hype around Jordan (and the NBA in general) that our own NBL went through one of its most popular stages ever - only in the past year or two has it been back to the levels of popularity it"s been since 92/93.


喬丹當年影響力太盛了,以至於另一個國家的職業聯賽基本算是從小眾變成了主流。籃球在澳大利亞成了一項主流運動基本就是因為當年有大量圍繞喬丹的宣傳(還有就是NBA總體而言),這讓我們自己的NBL聯賽也步入了有史以來最受歡迎的階段之一——也就過去這一兩年回暖到了1992-93賽季起的那種火爆程度。






[–]KlaysToaster 1480 指標 1 天前


That"s actually really interesting. I know Curry has said the same thing about shooting 3s and how he doesn"t want young kids shooting from so far because it actually hurts their fundamentals.


這倒還真的很有意思。我知道庫里在談及三分的時候說過相似的話,他不希望年輕的孩子們在太遠的地方投籃,因為這實際上不利於他們的基本功。



[–][NYK] Anthony MasonBlueHundred 729 指標 1 天前


I think it"ll always be a problem. Kids want to imitate their favorite stars but the stars are the elite of the elite. They"re skipping tons of steps when trying to imitate.


我覺得這會永遠是個問題。孩子們想模仿他們最喜歡的球星,但是這些球星是萬中無一,精英中的精英。這些孩子屬於沒學會爬就想飛。




I tried to copy MJ/Kobe/Ewing/Hakeem/other players elite at post fadeaways from the mid-late 90s. As a kid, I would take those shots when they weren"t needed at all and miss almost all of them.


我從九幾年起就試著模仿喬丹,科比,尤因,奧拉朱旺還有其他超級球星的背身後仰跳投了。小的時候,哪怕完全沒必要用這招,我也會這麼投籃,幾乎大部分出手都打鐵了。




[–][PHI] Jerami Grantikenjake 492 指標 1 天前


Shit, kids used to throw themselves off roofs because of jackass, they don"t know better.

擦,小屁孩們還曾經因為《蠢蛋搞怪秀》的內容就把他們自己從房頂上扔下去,他們懂個屁呀。




[–]HawksMacinTez 481 指標 1 天前


「Hellowe, I』m J.R. Smith, and welcome to JackShots」


「你們好啊,我是JR-史密斯,歡迎收看《蠢蛋投籃秀》!」




[–]Raptorsdropknot 151 指標 1 天前


Than there"s me who"s favorite player was Steve Nash and I tried to imitate his great fundamentals and smart play. I was still shit though.


猛龍球迷:然而還有我這樣的,我最喜歡的球員是史蒂夫-納什,我曾經試著模仿他那出色的基本和聰明的籃球智商。不過我還是很菜。





[–]Bladex10 956 指標 1 天前


Now you go to local parks and you see little kids pulling up from 5 ft beyond the 3pt line trying to imitate Curry. Changing of the times


你現在去你家附近的野球場,你絕對能看到小孩兒們都在試著模仿庫里,從距離三分線1.5米的地方就投籃了。時代變了啊。




[–]username--_-- 623 指標 1 天前


I mean isn"t that how it has always been?


We all wanted to dunk like mike


Then we wanted to cross people up like AI


Then shoot with 3 hands in our faces and yell "KOBE"!

這個吧,一直不都是這樣么?


曾經我們都想像喬丹那樣扣籃;


然後我們都想像艾弗森那樣過人;


接著迎著三人防守投籃,大喊一聲,「科比」!




We tried to do the very short lived crazy athletic finishes, a"la D Rose.


Now we are cooking from 5 feet behind the line, like Chef


There"s always a trend basketball wise. Once Curry"s phase is over, someone will capture our attention again, and make all the up-and-comers try and model their game after them.


我們都曾嘗試過去做那些壽命不長但運動能力極其爆表的終結技,比如德里克-羅斯的。


現在,我們在像庫里那樣,距離三分線1.5米起跳投籃。

籃球引起的潮流永不停息。一旦庫里的時代結束,又會有人吸引到我們的注意,所有的後起之秀都會去嘗試模仿他們的打法。




[–]-writ 406 指標 1 天前


Larry Bird is the main reason I can"t jump good.


拉里-伯德是我跳得不高的主要原因。




[–]76ersabecedorkian 211 指標 1 天前


Robert Traylor is why I"m fat.


都怪羅伯特-特雷勒,要不然我也不會這麼胖。




[–]SoundsRightButWrong 307 指標 1 天前


Karl Malone is why I hate the show To Catch a Predator


就是因為卡爾-馬龍,我才討厭《獵捕戀童癖》這個節目的。




[–][GSW] JaVale McGeeashwinr136 229 指標 1 天前


JR Smith is why I"m high


都是因為JR-史密斯,我才一副磕嗨了的樣子。




[–]Celticssmashey 144 指標 1 天前


Marcus Smart is why I can"t afford to see a dermatologist


凱爾特人球迷:都是因為馬庫斯-斯馬特,我才看不起皮膚科大夫的。




[–]Timberwolvesphernoree 92 指標 1 天前


Yet the timeless dad-ball way of backing up smaller defenders all the way to the rim then throwing up an awkward hookshot has never gone out of style with middle-aged men.


然而,永恆不變的一路背打小個防守人到籃下然後扔個丑爆的勾手這一招數永不過時,中年男子的最愛。




[–]Rocketstimtejas 110 指標 1 天前


Or more realistically,


We all dribbled the ball off our feet and bricked shots like Bryant Reeves


Then we all dribbled the ball off our feet and bricked shots Kwame Brown


Then we all dribbled the ball off our feet and bricked shots, yelling "Javale McGee!"


We all dribbled the ball off our feet and bricked shots like Kyle Singler


Now we all dribble the ball off our feet and bricked shots like Austin Rivers


或者給大伙兒一個更寫實的版本,


我們都曾像布萊恩特-里夫斯那樣球運到腳上,各種打鐵;


後來,我們都像誇梅-布朗那樣球運到腳上,各種打鐵;


再後來,我們喊著「賈維爾-麥基!」,球運到腳上,各種打鐵;


接著,我們都像凱爾-辛格勒那樣球運到腳上,各種打鐵;


而現在,我們都像奧斯汀-里弗斯那樣球運到腳上,各種打鐵。






[–][MIA] Anfernee HardawayChaseH9499 66 指標 1 天前


He"s not wrong.


Source: 4 years of varsity basketball, got teased for losing my ability to dunk after tearing ACL in 10th grade


喬丹說的沒錯。


背景:我打過4年大學校隊,因為我高二的時候前十字韌帶撕裂而導致失去了扣籃的能力,大傢伙都嘲笑我。




[–][DEN] Nikola JokicRedSoxEatPoop 31 指標 1 天前


They say the same about Steph Curry ruining the game because kids take too many 3"s lol


大傢伙也是這麼說庫里的,因為現在的孩子們投三分投得太多了。




[–]MooseAMZN 26 指標 1 天前


Perhaps not known widely, but many people blame the And1 mixtapes for destroying Chinese basketball development. When those came out, Chinese basketball kids just tried to emulate And1 moves, similar to kids jacking up 3s now due to Curry. There was an actual effort at camps, etc by sneaker brands to reverse the "damage" by And1 in China.


可能知道的人並不多,但是很多人都在指責And1集錦毀了中國籃球的發展。這套美國街頭籃球錄影帶出版後,中國打籃球的孩子們就只去試著模仿裡面的動作了,就像現在的小孩兒因為庫里而出手大量三分一樣。在中國,真的是靠一些運動鞋品牌所舉辦的訓練營所做出的的努力才彌補了AND1所造成的「損害」。









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