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騎士應該徹底擺爛還是繼續保持競爭力?續約樂福是效仿快船對格里芬?

NBA某球探表示:「我不喜歡騎士現在的做法。如果是我的話,我會選擇徹底推倒重建。不過即使是現在這個陣容,他們也可能拿到前十甚至是前五的順位……他們能變得更好的唯一方法就是洗牌陣容,重頭再來。」



[NBA Scout, via B/R] "I don"t like what [the Cavs] are doing. I would have done the full rebuild. Even with the roster that they have now, they"ll probably still get a top-10 pick, maybe a top-five. ... The only way they can get better is gut it and start over again."







[–][MIN] Terrell BrandonThorvaldsonMusic 595 指標 11小時前 


So If they can still get a top 5 pick without fully tanking, then what"s the problem?


森林狼球迷:所以,既然騎士能夠在不完全擺爛的情況下拿到前五順位,那還要啥自行車?




[–]Celticsward0630 276 指標 11小時前 


There"s a chance they"re good enough to send the #11 pick to the Hawks


凱爾特人球迷:騎士的戰績有可能好到把自己的選秀權送給老鷹。

[譯註1]

[譯註1]:2017年,騎士用小鄧利維、莫-威廉姆斯和一個受保護(2020年前十保護)的首輪選秀權,從老鷹換來科沃爾。





[–]HawksK242 207 指標 10小時前 


Implying good things happen to Atlanta sports


老鷹球迷:所以你的意思是,亞特蘭大體育隊不是後媽養的?




[–]oakled 64 指標 11小時前 


Because they could"ve leveraged the cap space they just spent on Kevin Love and used it to take on distressed assets for picks.


The minutes they will be playing Kevin Love could"ve gone to a high-risk, high-reward young player.

Tanking is a multi-level strategy.


(回復層主):因為騎士可以利用樂福所佔的薪金空間接手別隊的不良資產,以獲得選秀權。


樂福上場的時間可以分配給一個高風險高回報的年輕球員。


擺爛可是一個多層次戰略的技術活。




[–]Trail Blazers_Quetzalcoatlus_ 55 指標 11小時前 


They could get a top 5 pick, but that"s unlikely. Also, it"s not just about their own pick. They could have picked up a first for Love and probably a second for Korver. That would also help them get bad enough to have a good shot at top 3.


開拓者球迷:(現在這樣)騎士是有可能得到前五順位選秀權,但可能性不大。而且,這不只關乎騎士自己的簽,他們完全可以通過交易樂福得到一個首輪簽,然後用科沃爾換來一個次輪簽。這樣一來,騎士就差到可以衝擊前三順位簽了。





[–]RaptorsYoungSidd 162 指標 11小時前 


A part of me believes they signed Love to that extension in order to raise his trade value a la Blake Griffin. Otherwise he was an impending UFA if he opted out next year.


猛龍球迷:我一部分相信他們續簽樂福是為了提高他的交易價值,就像快船對格里芬做的那樣。不然的話,如果樂福明年選擇跳出合同,那他就是個潛在的非限制自由球員了。




[–]letourpowerscombine[S] 70 指標 11小時前 


That is really interesting and entirely plausible. If that was their plan, it"s not like they would want to spend the money on anybody else in FA anyway.


The only question is the pricetag. $30mm/yr is one of the most expensive contracts in the league. Not sure which contenders have room for that, or if any of them view Love"s value on the court worth that financial burden.


樓上說的非常因趣斯汀而且完全合理。如果這就是他們的計劃的話,那騎士確實不太可能想在其他自由球員身上花什麼錢。


唯一的問題就是價位。三千萬年薪是聯盟里最貴的合同之一。我不確定哪個爭冠球隊有這個空間,或者哪個爭冠球隊認為樂福的場上貢獻值得他們背上沉重的經濟負擔。



Might end up like a Ryan Anderson situation, where teams could desire the player (even more interest in Love, obv), but nobody wants to take on the salary.


最後可能會淪為萊恩-安德森那種情況,球隊是可能對他感興趣(對樂福的興趣顯然更大哈),但沒有其他的隊願意接受這麼大的合同。




[–]RaptorsDrLyleEvans 35 指標 10小時前 


I mean I bet they could get a couple 1sts, probably even one unprotected, from Portland right now for Turner and Leonard. Would keep Dame happy and Love at the 4 with Nurkic and Collins at the 5 makes reasonable sense, even if it likely hurts their defence.


猛龍球迷:我覺得吧,通過接手特納和邁耶斯-倫納德,騎士應該能從開拓者那換來幾個首輪簽,甚至能有一個是不受保護的選秀權。這樣開拓者能把利拉德哄開心了,而且樂福打4號位搭檔五號位的努爾基奇和科林斯也很合理,雖然這麼做可能會傷害到球隊的防守。




Teams like Portland in that 5-15 range who need more talent to really compete (Milwaukee, Washington, Indiana, OKC, Minnesota, etc...) might see Love as an option. I really think he would have been a nice fit replacing Melo in OKC, for instance, An Adams-Love-Roberson-George-Westbrook lineup has some shooting to make up for Roberson and Adams and enough defence to accommodate Love and Westbrook.


像開拓者這樣處於聯盟5-15名水平(雄鹿、奇才、步行者、雷霆、森林狼等等)、需要更多的天賦才能爭冠的球隊可能會考慮樂福。我真心認為樂福會是雷霆替代甜瓜的合適人選。舉個栗子,一套亞當斯+樂福+羅伯森+喬治+威少的陣容可以彌補羅伯森和亞當斯不會投射的問題,也有足夠的防守來照顧到樂福和威少這方面的不足。





[–]penny_4_thots 25 指標 11小時前 


I think they need to see how Love and Sexton shape out without Lebron, could be a match made in heaven, could be a dogshit team. We need at least half a season to find out.


我覺得,騎士需要先看看樂福和塞克斯頓在沒有勒布朗的情況下磨合得怎麼樣,他倆可能是天作之合,可能把騎士變成一支狗屎球隊。我們至少需要半個賽季來得到答案。




[–]Kandahar511 73 指標 10小時前 


Honestly let a team do what they want and TBF this team chances of doin what they did was Lebron soon is not going to be highly likely. But every team has a different situation. Tired of people thinking you either full out tank or play to win the chip nowadays. First of all Knlove is probably the best sinking since getting Lebron. This is a franchise that is hammered as nothing without Lebron. Keeping Love is a sense of pride that players like the city. I can be fine with tanking but god damn stop thinking it is everything. Cavs fmo can still get a top 10 pick.


港真,我們就讓球隊根據自己想法運作吧。說句公道的,騎士以前能為所欲為本來也是因為勒布朗啊,以後這都不太可能了。但每支球隊的情況不同。我受夠了人們這種認為球隊要麼該完全擺爛要麼該為奪冠打球的想法。首先,樂福可能是自詹姆斯後克利夫蘭得到最好的球員了。這是一支沒有詹姆斯就會被貶的一文不值的球隊。能夠留住樂福是一種值得自豪的事,說明球員熱愛這座城市。我可以接受擺爛,但特么請別覺得擺爛就是一切問題的解決方法了。我認為騎士仍然能夠得到前十順位。




[–][CLE] Mark Price2uneek 30 指標 9小時前 

plus, Dan Gilbert locked in season ticket holders for the next 2 seasons i believe... If he puts out a shit product on the floor - he"s pissing off his highest paying customers. He needs to put as good of a product out there that he can.


騎士球迷:再者,我記得丹-吉爾伯特已經鎖定了未來兩年的季票持有者了吧。如果他把騎士搞得一團糟,他就是在得罪他的金主們。他需要盡自己所能讓騎士的比賽變得有看頭。






[–]Jazzjwinskowski 43 指標 11小時前 


They did that before and they ended up with Wiggins and Anthony Bennett.


爵士球迷:騎士之前就是這麼乾的,最後他們得到了威金斯和本內特,可還行。




[–]theclownermb 86 指標 11小時前 


I storngly disagree, look at the other sport team in the city the Browns, theyve been tanking since what 2002 and have been ass. Atleast put a devent product on the floor

我強烈反對這種做法,看看這座城市另外一支體育隊吧——NFL的克利夫蘭布朗隊,他們從2002年左右開始擺爛,直到現在一直都打得跟屎一樣。球賽就是給觀眾提供的產品,起碼得能看一看吧。




[–]Hornetsbubowskee 80 指標 11小時前 


The Browns have arguably the most loyal fanbase in sports. Plus they are finally starting to use all those assets they"ve been collecting over the past few years. If they weren"t the Browns, I"d say they could become title contenders in the next two seasons if they played FA right. But they are the Browns so they will be lucky to win 8 games


克利夫蘭布朗隊的球迷可以說是體育界里最忠實的粉絲群體了。此外,他們終於開始利用過去幾年他們積攢得來的資產了。如果他們不是克利夫蘭布朗的話,我敢說只要他們在自由市場上把牌打好,不出兩個賽季就能成為爭冠球隊。但很可惜克利夫蘭布朗就永遠是克利夫蘭布朗,所以他們能贏個8場就謝天謝地啦。







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